Manualitis

Manualitis

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

I'm adding more formats to
<URL:http://quimby.gnus.org/gnus/manual.html>.  Split HTML,
monolithic HTML, PS, pdf..  Anything else?  Macromedia Flash?  :-)

Actually, I'm having some difficulties with ps2pdf.  It bugs out with

loError: /limitcheck in --%op_show_continue--

after processing two megs or so.  Hm.  Perhaps I should get a new
version or something...

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   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Manualitis

[Alan Shutko]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I'm adding more formats to
> <URL:http://quimby.gnus.org/gnus/manual.html>.  Split HTML,
> monolithic HTML, PS, pdf..  Anything else?  Macromedia Flash?  :-)
> 
> Actually, I'm having some difficulties with ps2pdf.  It bugs out with

Don't use ps2pdf.  It's evil.  Broken.  In terrible shape.  It might
work someday (sounds like it might be OK by 6.0) but now, it's bad. 

Now, pdftex, that's good.  Here's a patch to the makefile to make
them.  I also have PDFs of all of them (including really happy
hyperlinks) if anyone wants them.

The only problem I found (in the brief look I had) is the logo in the
refcard.  It would take me a while to get it to work... I played with
it, and it wasn't quite happy with my regular methods.

*** Makefile.in.orig	Wed Dec  1 11:30:59 1999
--- Makefile.in	Sat Dec  4 22:18:28 1999
***************
*** 6,16 ****
--- 6,18 ----
  
  VPATH=$(srcdir)
  TEXI2DVI=texi2dvi
+ TEXI2PDF=texi2pdf
  EMACS=emacs
  MAKEINFO=@MAKEINFO@
  EMACSINFO=$(EMACS) -batch -q -no-site-file
  INFOSWI=-l texinfmt -f texinfo-every-node-update -f texinfo-format-buffer -f save-buffer
  XINFOSWI=-l texinfmt -f texinfo-every-node-update -f texinfo-format-buffer -f save-buffer
+ PDFLATEX=pdflatex
  LATEX=latex
  DVIPS=dvips
  PERL=perl
***************
*** 23,29 ****
  
  most: texi2latex.elc latex latexps
  
! .SUFFIXES: .texi .dvi .ps
  
  .texi:
  	if test -x $(MAKEINFO); then \
--- 25,31 ----
  
  most: texi2latex.elc latex latexps
  
! .SUFFIXES: .texi .dvi .ps .pdf
  
  .texi:
  	if test -x $(MAKEINFO); then \
***************
*** 34,47 ****
--- 36,62 ----
  
  dvi: gnus.dvi message.dvi refcard.dvi emacs-mime.dvi
  
+ pdf: gnus.pdf message.pdf refcard.pdf emacs-mime.pdf
+ 
  .texi.dvi :
  	$(PERL) -n -e 'print unless (/\@iflatex/ .. /\@end iflatex/)' $< > gnustmp.texi
  	$(TEXI2DVI) gnustmp.texi
  	cp gnustmp.dvi $*.dvi
  	rm gnustmp.*
  
+ .texi.pdf :
+ 	$(PERL) -n -e 'print unless (/\@iflatex/ .. /\@end iflatex/)' $< > gnustmp.texi
+ 	$(TEXI2PDF) gnustmp.texi
+ 	cp gnustmp.pdf $*.pdf
+ 	rm gnustmp.*
+ 
+ 
  refcard.dvi: refcard.tex gnuslogo.refcard gnusref.tex
  	$(LATEX) refcard.tex
+ 
+ refcard.pdf: refcard.tex gnuslogo.refcard gnusref.tex
+ 	epstopdf gnuslogo.refcard --outfile=gnuslogo.refcard.pdf
+ 	$(PDFLATEX) refcard.tex
  
  clean:
  	rm -f gnus.*.bak *.ky *.cp *.fn *.cps *.kys *.log *.aux *.dvi *.vr \


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Re: Manualitis

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> writes:

> Don't use ps2pdf.  It's evil.  Broken.  In terrible shape.  It might
> work someday (sounds like it might be OK by 6.0) but now, it's bad. 

In what way?  It kinds looks ok to me...

> Now, pdftex, that's good. 

Do you have an URL for that?  I did some searches, but all I found was 
Windos sites...

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Re: Manualitis

[Shenghuo ZHU]

>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:


[...]

>> Now, pdftex, that's good. 

LMI> Do you have an URL for that?  I did some searches, but all I found was 
LMI> Windos sites...

pdftex is a part of tetex 1.0.5.

-- 
Shenghuo

Re: Manualitis

[Kim-Minh Kaplan]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I'm adding more formats to
> <URL:http://quimby.gnus.org/gnus/manual.html>.  Split HTML,
> monolithic HTML, PS, pdf..  Anything else?  Macromedia Flash?  :-)

What about plain text and info formats ?  I mean none of the formats
you cite are readable in a bare Emacs.  BTW does a texi2txt exist ?

Kim-Minh.

Re: Manualitis

[Alan Shutko]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org> writes:
> 
> > Don't use ps2pdf.  It's evil.  Broken.  In terrible shape.  It might
> > work someday (sounds like it might be OK by 6.0) but now, it's bad. 
> 
> In what way?  It kinds looks ok to me...

If you use any fonts other than the base 13 which come with Acrobat
Reader, it'll convert them into Type 3 fonts, explode the file size,
make things look awful on Acrobat Reader, lose hinting, etc.  And the
texinfo manuals use Computer Modern, so they'll look icky.

> > Now, pdftex, that's good. 

> Do you have an URL for that?  I did some searches, but all I found was 
> Windos sites...

http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/

dvipdfm might also work well for this, but I can't remember the URL
offhand.

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Old hitchhikers never die-they just throw in the towel.

Re: Manualitis

[Russ Allbery]

Kim-Minh Kaplan <kmkaplan@vocatex.fr> writes:

> What about plain text and info formats ?  I mean none of the formats you
> cite are readable in a bare Emacs.  BTW does a texi2txt exist ?

info (the standalone info browser program) is capable of dumping a fairly
readable plain text version from info files, just by redirecting it's
output to a file.  That's probably the best way of doing texi2txt.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)         <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Manualitis

[Karl EICHWALDER]

Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

|   That's probably the best way of doing texi2txt.

If you've access to the texi files, try

    makeinfo --no-headers FILE.texi

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Re: Manualitis

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

> LMI> Do you have an URL for that?  I did some searches, but all I found was 
> LMI> Windos sites...
> 
> pdftex is a part of tetex 1.0.5.

Hm.  Quimby (which is an OpenBSD box) didn't come with that, so I'm
pulling down a complete source tree over cvs to be able to compile the
new one.  After that's been done, I should, perhaps, be able to
generate nice-looking pdfs.

And, *whee*, that concludes my travel backwards through gnus.ding;
five months worth; 2.5k messages.  Didn't think I had it in me.

Now it's time to do the rest, then.  307 messages in gnus.gnus-bug and
1762 in gnu.emacs.gnus, and just 55 in nnml:misc.  Eeek.  I only have
three more days left, and then my holiday is over.

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   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen