From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77723 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: message-yank-original issue Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:30:23 +0100 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <871v2ako4c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87lj0ha52s.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878vwhijc1.fsf@gmail.com> <87pqpt8oxq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d3lte7qs.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300203153 3659 80.91.229.12 (15 Mar 2011 15:32:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:32:33 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26046@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Mar 15 16:32:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzWEV-0005M4-L9 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:32:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzWET-00049r-AD; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:32:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzWES-00049Z-0I for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:32:24 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzWEN-0007fM-0Z for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:32:23 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzWEM-0000Rw-9a for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:32:18 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzWEI-0005GF-S8 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:32:14 +0100 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:32:14 +0100 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:32:14 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEVTJS0/FiN9TkU5ECAY AAskAxM1Dh1nODmQY1DGonEtCBlKHijcdNX3AAACX0lEQVQ4jW2UMW/bMBCF2UmDFhMC7ALatFhB lqgEVKBe7X9gZtCWEuXgyVCBMOmYJRK6Zam1NUM4qIsEo0v15/qOVGyn7gHW8D7duzuKZ7aU15lA KJXxMQYWlClbLqXVtm1bq90LudYqG4KSLaUstNYgWrhMAh3ASkqp9eYAkCMcgA4vn8EjVBAi451J RpBTDf1aPmYOFK1V8NrAHFrvQQoAFyU0BcAwuH5LApJAvtnojcriYRjwozng1GoVUf8YBBkINFUx 6foByHPVC84XDqQ1AauEGzqLBJ/CrUPtHQFM5rrvuegV904Pr4Bj3D7jOCYkBGmVMDcG55HIWB8L MWFhx5AwJ4Cz4FGebVnIecfCgRLMCGLOJyzYMkSInh6NoclhFccdY8YYh8rKOFBY14oDRIJ0/hYE xkeZ0MN1RSfBPCiTMTyICUCeJ8kbkHEPyuRfEPsSR7mqXHGAQ0JaVRV0D2586dKpY9CAmo/gRHdA eackOQdUuqSS/wfpOXBO6VmGjl3C5aw+yE0zAir952O9g9LUDQVue6HiAPplPvGSDxoQoEzmPGcX p2AN0AVJsheL2/tTQFZYh3dCzG7vTsFSFjfDMMW1nn0zKUm7EayKFkevdP7TsLvTjJVcU8vYjm6S Nrv6AChoF3AlrtLHoKoeyvoIaBlu+onpg+2+tVd1s/NguWoXwTbsvio+fcFbH45gERjc2k82h76S 9uJpBM844I7t2/ZFrsn58w8Prmkr44FvXqRdh9f70s4J4ItEGf4Vorxl75un++Z700wIFFbkira2 lVPb/f41fAnZ81+7fKNWTLX+zAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Various's _...one last kiss_: "Crayon - All the Stars" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ilv5tVoFR9oaKFXIcHbIrHYM/Go= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77723 Archived-At: Antoine Levitt writes: > But what's the rationale behind not loading it as part of the standard > emacs load? Is it a loading time issue? The command > > time emacs -nw -Q --eval "(require 'cl)" --eval "(kill-emacs)" > > does not appear to be noticeably longer than the same one without cl, on > the two machines I've tried. (but maybe they're both too fast to measure > it) It's a political, not a technical issue. The Emacs maintainers have historically not favoured Common Lisp, and does not want cl.el to be loaded unless a user explicitly requests it to be loaded. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen