* Testing gnus-html here and there
@ 2010-08-31 1:12 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-08-31 6:41 ` gnus-load.el (was: Testing gnus-html here and there) Reiner Steib
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-08-31 1:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
I've now tested gnus-html under Emacs 22 on a "clean" machine, and I
found a missing require, but nothing major...
Oh, and I found that you have to say
(require 'gnus-load)
to get the autoloads rights. Is that supposed to be that way? I kinda
imagined that Gnus would load the gnus-load file automatically.
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larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* gnus-load.el (was: Testing gnus-html here and there)
2010-08-31 1:12 Testing gnus-html here and there Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-08-31 6:41 ` Reiner Steib
2010-08-31 13:00 ` gnus-load.el Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-08-31 6:55 ` Testing gnus-html here and there Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-08-31 7:52 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2010-08-31 6:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, Aug 31 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Oh, and I found that you have to say
>
> (require 'gnus-load)
>
> to get the autoloads rights. Is that supposed to be that way?
At least it is documented this way in GNUS-NEWS and the README. :-)
,----[ (info "(gnus)Oort Gnus") ]
| * `(require 'gnus-load)'
|
| If you use a stand-alone Gnus distribution, you'd better add
| `(require 'gnus-load)' into your `~/.emacs' after adding the
| Gnus lisp directory into load-path.
|
| File `gnus-load.el' contains autoload commands, functions and
| variables, some of which may not be included in distributions
| of Emacsen.
`----
(Probably it should be in some other node.)
> I kinda imagined that Gnus would load the gnus-load file
> automatically.
It is not necessary for the Gnus version bundled with Emacs.
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 1:12 Testing gnus-html here and there Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-08-31 6:41 ` gnus-load.el (was: Testing gnus-html here and there) Reiner Steib
@ 2010-08-31 6:55 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-08-31 8:17 ` Steinar Bang
2010-08-31 13:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-08-31 7:52 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2010-08-31 6:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> I've now tested gnus-html under Emacs 22 on a "clean" machine, and I
> found a missing require, but nothing major...
[...]
`set-process-plist' and `process-plist' that gnus-html.el uses
are not available in Emacs 21 and XEmacs. Aren't they something
like the following?
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I haven't yet reached to displaying images using `gnus-article-html',
so I'm not sure it is really useful.
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 6:55 ` Testing gnus-html here and there Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2010-08-31 8:17 ` Steinar Bang
2010-08-31 18:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-08-31 13:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Steinar Bang @ 2010-08-31 8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>:
> `set-process-plist' and `process-plist' that gnus-html.el uses
> are not available in Emacs 21 and XEmacs. Aren't they something
> like the following?
FWIW I still have some RHEL4 machines that has emacs 21, and I use git
gnus on them (which I have to update if I want Ted's gnus-sync.el
improvements (which I do)).
So... I would be happier if the default gnus configuration would still
build and run on emacs21.
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 8:17 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2010-08-31 18:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-08-31 18:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-08-31 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:17:46 +0200 Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> wrote:
>>>>>> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>:
>> `set-process-plist' and `process-plist' that gnus-html.el uses
>> are not available in Emacs 21 and XEmacs. Aren't they something
>> like the following?
SB> FWIW I still have some RHEL4 machines that has emacs 21, and I use git
SB> gnus on them (which I have to update if I want Ted's gnus-sync.el
SB> improvements (which I do)).
SB> So... I would be happier if the default gnus configuration would still
SB> build and run on emacs21.
You have to admit that's a big maintainer burden, though, for the sake
of very few users in 2010. I would make 22 the minimum.
Ted
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 18:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2010-08-31 18:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-08-31 19:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-08-31 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> You have to admit that's a big maintainer burden, though, for the sake
> of very few users in 2010. I would make 22 the minimum.
True. I would guess that none of the mainstream Linux distributions
haven't shipped Emacs 21 in a few years.
However, the code Katsumi posted also made the gnus-html code work in
XEmacs, which is worthwhile.
I think... :-)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 18:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-08-31 19:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-09-05 8:42 ` Malcolm Purvis
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2010-08-31 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:29:13 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> You have to admit that's a big maintainer burden, though, for the sake
>> of very few users in 2010. I would make 22 the minimum.
LMI> However, the code Katsumi posted also made the gnus-html code work in
LMI> XEmacs, which is worthwhile.
I agree, XEmacs is definitely worthwhile.
Ted
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 6:55 ` Testing gnus-html here and there Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-08-31 8:17 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2010-08-31 13:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-08-31 13:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-08-31 13:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
> (defun gnus-set-process-plist (process plist)
> "Replace the plist of PROCESS with PLIST. Returns PLIST."
> (put 'gnus-process-plist process plist))
Hm. Can I just use `put' directly on a process object? That didn't
occur to me...
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 13:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-08-31 13:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-01 4:03 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-08-31 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>> (defun gnus-set-process-plist (process plist)
>> "Replace the plist of PROCESS with PLIST. Returns PLIST."
>> (put 'gnus-process-plist process plist))
>
> Hm. Can I just use `put' directly on a process object? That didn't
> occur to me...
Oh, never mind. The other way around.
But aren't you just using this as a global variable here, sort of?
Which makes sense, I guess. I'll install your code.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 13:05 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-09-01 4:03 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2010-09-01 4:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>>> (defun gnus-set-process-plist (process plist)
>>> "Replace the plist of PROCESS with PLIST. Returns PLIST."
>>> (put 'gnus-process-plist process plist))
>>
>> Hm. Can I just use `put' directly on a process object? That didn't
>> occur to me...
> Oh, never mind. The other way around.
> But aren't you just using this as a global variable here, sort of?
> Which makes sense, I guess. I'll install your code.
Thank you for the installation. Er, I don't see what you suspect,
but it's a mere impromptu idea. There will be a couple of ways to
do that. For instance:
(defvar gnus-process-plist-alist nil)
(set-alist 'gnus-process-plist-alist PROCESS PLIST)
P.S. I'll add `gnus-process-get' later for the compatibility with
Emacs 21 and XEmacs.
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 1:12 Testing gnus-html here and there Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-08-31 6:41 ` gnus-load.el (was: Testing gnus-html here and there) Reiner Steib
2010-08-31 6:55 ` Testing gnus-html here and there Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2010-08-31 7:52 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-08-31 8:35 ` Ulf Stegemann
2010-08-31 12:52 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2010-08-31 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Some html messages contain image data referenced to by cid tags.
I wish `gnus-article-html' could display them as well. Here's
an example message:
ftp://ftp.jpl.org/pub/tmp/cid-example.gz
This is what nnshimbun (bundled with emacs-w3m) created. The same
message can be found as the article 2866 in the gwene.jp.asahi-com
newsgroup (only a link is there, though).
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 7:52 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2010-08-31 8:35 ` Ulf Stegemann
2010-08-31 12:52 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Ulf Stegemann @ 2010-08-31 8:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> wrote:
> Some html messages contain image data referenced to by cid tags.
> I wish `gnus-article-html' could display them as well.
1+
> This is what nnshimbun (bundled with emacs-w3m) created. The same
> message can be found as the article 2866 in the gwene.jp.asahi-com
> newsgroup (only a link is there, though).
Another issue with nnshimbun is that shimbun articles may contain
relative link targets (as their source is a web page, not an HTML mail).
Those are presented by gnus-html `as they are', i.e. they are not
prefixed with host/path of the original source page. This frequently
creates broken links with nnshimbun (for examples take a look at nearly
any article in `nnshimbun+heise:news').
I don't know if doing link target re-writing is beyond the scope of the
intended /simple/ HTML viewer but without that feature gnus-html would
probably not be usable for nnshimbun. I'm not so much into RSS, but I
can imagine that relative link targets may appear there, too, which in
turn would also lead to problems with gwene articles.
Ulf
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 7:52 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-08-31 8:35 ` Ulf Stegemann
@ 2010-08-31 12:52 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-01 6:02 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-08-31 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
> Some html messages contain image data referenced to by cid tags.
> I wish `gnus-article-html' could display them as well.
That's easy enough. Pushed out now.
I'm a bit confused by some of the output from w3m, though. In the test
mail I tried (work-related), the output was the following:
-----------
<img_alt src="cid:image012.png@01CB485E.8BA6A0F0" title="https://www.saxobank.com/Advertisements/email/2010/partnerNotification/AUGUST/images/header_inst_notitfication.png">https://www.saxobank.com/Advertisements/email/2010/</img_alt>
<IMG_ALT SRC="cid:image012.png@01CB485E.8BA6A0F0">partnerNotification/AUGUST/images/header_inst_notitfication.png</img_alt>
-----------
So the cid: picture appeared twice? But once with lower-case "img_alt"
and once with upper-case "IMG_ALT"? gnus-html ignores the latter, and
just renders the text between the tags, but should probably delete it
altogether. But I just wonder what the logic is here?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-08-31 12:52 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-09-01 6:02 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-09-01 8:02 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-09-01 14:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2010-09-01 6:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
>> Some html messages contain image data referenced to by cid tags.
>> I wish `gnus-article-html' could display them as well.
> That's easy enough. Pushed out now.
Excellent. Thank you very much.
In addition to this, I've made `gnus-article-html' decode raw html
contents by the charset that the Content-Type header specifies
before passing to w3m -halfdump. At least Japanese html articles
got human-readable. Cf.: ftp://ftp.jpl.org/pub/tmp/cid-example.gz
> I'm a bit confused by some of the output from w3m, though. In the test
> mail I tried (work-related), the output was the following:
> -----------
> <img_alt src="cid:image012.png@01CB485E.8BA6A0F0" title="https://www.saxobank.com/Advertisements/email/2010/partnerNotification/AUGUST/images/header_inst_notitfication.png">https://www.saxobank.com/Advertisements/email/2010/</img_alt>
> <IMG_ALT SRC="cid:image012.png@01CB485E.8BA6A0F0">partnerNotification/AUGUST/images/header_inst_notitfication.png</img_alt>
> -----------
> So the cid: picture appeared twice? But once with lower-case "img_alt"
> and once with upper-case "IMG_ALT"? gnus-html ignores the latter, and
> just renders the text between the tags, but should probably delete it
> altogether. But I just wonder what the logic is here?
I'll look into this.
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-09-01 6:02 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2010-09-01 8:02 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-09-01 14:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-09-01 14:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2010-09-01 8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>> I'm a bit confused by some of the output from w3m, though. In the test
>> mail I tried (work-related), the output was the following:
>> -----------
>> <img_alt src="cid:image012.png@01CB485E.8BA6A0F0" title="https://www.saxobank.com/Advertisements/email/2010/partnerNotification/AUGUST/images/header_inst_notitfication.png">https://www.saxobank.com/Advertisements/email/2010/</img_alt>
>> <IMG_ALT SRC="cid:image012.png@01CB485E.8BA6A0F0">partnerNotification/AUGUST/images/header_inst_notitfication.png</img_alt>
>> -----------
>> So the cid: picture appeared twice? But once with lower-case "img_alt"
>> and once with upper-case "IMG_ALT"? gnus-html ignores the latter, and
>> just renders the text between the tags, but should probably delete it
>> altogether. But I just wonder what the logic is here?
> I'll look into this.
I don't know why the upper-case IMG_ALT tag appears, but I recalled
it's been existing since the early days of emacs-w3m. It seems to
appear if the alt string of an image consists of two or more lines.
Emacs-w3m does a workaround anyway. Gnus may want to do something
similar (deleting "<IMG_ALT ...>...</img_alt>" ?). Sorry for the
helpless information.
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-09-01 8:02 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2010-09-01 14:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-01 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
> Gnus may want to do something similar (deleting "<IMG_ALT
> ...>...</img_alt>" ?). Sorry for the helpless information.
Yeah, I'll just have it delete the IMG_ALT region.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Testing gnus-html here and there
2010-09-01 6:02 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2010-09-01 8:02 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2010-09-01 14:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-09-01 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> writes:
> In addition to this, I've made `gnus-article-html' decode raw html
> contents by the charset that the Content-Type header specifies
> before passing to w3m -halfdump. At least Japanese html articles
> got human-readable. Cf.: ftp://ftp.jpl.org/pub/tmp/cid-example.gz
Great!
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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