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In some places Gnus faces are defined both with `defface' _and_
`defcustom'.  E.g.

,----
| (defface gnus-server-opened-face
|   '((((class color) (background light)) (:foreground "Green3" :bold t))
|     (((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground "Green1" :bold t))
|     (t (:bold t)))
|   "Face used for displaying OPENED servers"
|   :group 'gnus-server-visual)
| 
| [...]
| 
| (defcustom gnus-server-opened-face 'gnus-server-opened-face
|   "Face name to use on OPENED servers."
|   :group 'gnus-server-visual
|   :type 'face)
`----

This means that the face shows up twice when you use Customize.  It
looks like a mistake to me ... or is there a reason for doing it?