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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> So I think I'm going to go with just offering PayPal for the Oort
> shirts.  Unless anybody has any good reasons why not...

A good reason is that it doesn't work.  They claim that it's free to
open an account ... it isn't.  

You have to pay $1.95 to add a credit card.  Then some secret 4-digit
numbers are supposed to turn up on your credit card statement, which you
must use to confirm the account.  

The trouble is that Paypal is apparently making some US-centric
assumptions about how a credit card statement looks -- no such numbers
showed up on my statement, and my bank says that such a thing is
impossible.

So, you end up wasting $1.95 for a non-working Paypal account.  At least
that's how it worked the last time I tried.