Re: Loading Message without GNUS

[Barry Fishman <barry_fishman@att.net>]

Hello Simon,

Re:
> Barry Fishman <barry_fishman@att.net> writes:
>
>> For a while now (in ognus), a fundamental mode *group* buffer is
>> created by just doing:
>>
>>         (require 'message)
>
> Can you M-x elp-instrument-packge RET gnus RET, M-x m and then run M-x
> elp-results RET to find out which Gnus functions is called?  Pick out
> one function name that looks high level and generic, and M-x
> debug-on-entry RET on it to get a backtrace and post it.

I did as you asked, but when I ran elp-results, there were no
functions listed, although the *group* buffer is created.

Being more careful, and starting with a "emacs -q", doing just:


      (setq mail-user-agent 'message-user-agent)
      (require 'bbdb)
      (bbdb-initialize 'message)
      (bbdb-initialize 'gnus)
      (compose-mail)

doesn't load gnus or generate the *group* buffer.  So the problem is
elsewhere in my .emacs file, and the fact I use BBDB in message,
doesn't seem to cause any problems.  The only other external message
hook I (am aware I) use is smtp-send-it.

However, in a raw "emacs -q", if I do just:

         (require 'gnus)

a group buffer is created.  Shouldn't one have to at least call some
function before a buffer is created?

In my particular case I don't see any "Loading gnus---" in the message
buffer but gnus is being added to the features list.

I'm proceeding to rebuild my .emacs setup piece by piece, to see when
it shows up, but it will take some time.

Barry