From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19637 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Info on Internationalization Date: 04 Dec 1998 02:15:27 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <199812022334.SAA03580@math.gatech.edu> <5blnkqozqv.fsf@brandy.cs.rochester.edu> <5bww49i3k5.fsf@brandy.cs.rochester.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157951 12628 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:52:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11777 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:16:33 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA22780; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:16:10 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:16:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23154 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:15:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sparky.gnus.org (ppp092.uio.no [129.240.240.97]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11726 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:15:47 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by sparky.gnus.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA20250; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 02:16:56 +0100 Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Reading: Greg Bear's _Slant_ X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Joni Mitchell_ Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Shenghuo ZHU's message of "03 Dec 1998 11:38:18 -0500" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070063 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.63) XEmacs/21.2(beta3) (Aglaia) X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > External program read and write text in emacs-mule coding system. But > XEmacs does not support emacs-mule. What is the emacs-mule coding system, anyway? Is it just an, er, binary dump of the internal Emacs MULE representation or something? > I am thinking about native elisp implementation. However, the > convert table is a bit large. Hm. Well, if there is some program that translates utf-8 to MULE, then why doesn't Emacs include that code in Emacs proper? I am on the xemacs-mule@xemacs.org mailing list, which isn't very active, but has made many things about the XEmacs implementation clearer to me. Is there a mailing list used by the Emacs MULE people? > How about using gnus-default-language or checking the charset the > message uses? Well -- I'm a pretty typical European mail user, I think. I get mail in my native language and in English. What language I respond in depends mainly on what language people address me in. The character set I use for 99.3% of all my messages is iso-8859-1, no matter what language I respond in. (Although the English messages often are in ASCII, but so are some of the more terse Norwegian ones.) So, for me, I'd have to default to language "en", and correct that manually to "no" whenever I write Norwegian text. I see no real tangible benifits to this. As with the January 1st 1999 "deadline" for utf-8 support, I think the Content-Language thing is premature. Voice-speech mail readers (!) are still rare. The Content-Language header can wait until the computer is smart enough to figure out (through artificial stupidity) which language I'm typing, and by that time, the receiver can do the same, which makes the whole thing moot. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen