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From: Steve Youngs <steve@sxemacs.org>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: yamaoka@jpl.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, sxemacs-devel@sxemacs.org,
	ding@gnus.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org
Subject: Re: Moving Gnus development to Emacs?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 13:47:35 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <microsoft-free.87y4c69fag.fsf@steveyoungs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3fuyfkhi5.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 02 Jan 2016 18:39:46 +0100")

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

  > After the discussion here, I think I've decided to move Gnus development
  > to Emacs and Emacsify the code for greater readability.

Are you going to keep git.gnus.org live for a period of time after the
move so us slow-coaches can grab the last of the (S)XEmacs capable Gnus?
Also, it'd be very much appreciated if you could let me know when the
last commit goes in at git.gnus.org.

  > If {S,}XEmacs wants to keep tracking Gnus development, this
  > unfortunately means that the onus is on the {S,}XEmacs maintainers to
  > add an ever-growing number of Emacs compat functions, and expand
  > function call lists to keep up with Emacs function call lists.

  > (As well as adding seq/map/cllib/etc.)

Yep, working on it. :)

  > The major stumbling block is, of course, lexical binding, but we'll see
  > how much of that creeps into Gnus after a while.  Gnus is quite async in
  > some respects, and having proper closures makes that a lot more
  > readable, but on the other hand, Gnus (ab)uses dynamic scope
  > extensively, so...

Gnus is far from unique in that (ab)use, even my own code does it a lot
more than I'd care to admit to.  But yeah, lexical scope is well and
truly on the SXEmacs radar.  Might have to bump it up a few notches on
the todo list. :-)

  > I wrote up the decision here, with added images:

  > http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/01/01/its-about-ethics-in-gnus-development/

It must be true, there's cats and memes involved.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-04  3:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-30 11:43 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
     [not found] ` <mailman.1827.1451475821.29210.sxemacs-devel-sxemacs.org@lists.sxemacs.org>
2015-12-30 14:33   ` Moving Gnus development to Emacs Steve Youngs
2015-12-30 15:15     ` Ivan Shmakov
2016-01-01 19:21     ` Steinar Bang
2016-01-02  3:28     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-30 16:33 ` Moving Gnus development to Emacs? raman
2015-12-30 19:05   ` Jay Belanger
2015-12-30 19:25     ` Nikolaus Rath
2015-12-31 17:40     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-31 18:35       ` Benjamin Slade
2015-12-30 18:44 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-31  0:46 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2015-12-31 13:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-31  9:18 ` Julien Danjou
2015-12-31  9:40 ` David Engster
2015-12-31 11:43   ` Michael Albinus
2015-12-31 12:29     ` CHENG Gao
2015-12-31 14:35       ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-12-31 14:52         ` CHENG Gao
2016-01-01  0:10           ` Xue Fuqiao
2016-01-01  7:02             ` CHENG Gao
2015-12-31 17:10   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-31 17:15     ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-01-02 17:39   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-02 20:31     ` Steinar Bang
2016-01-03 18:24     ` Bill Wohler
2016-01-04  0:48       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-04  1:05         ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04  3:47     ` Steve Youngs [this message]
2016-01-06  7:18       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-06  7:38         ` CHENG Gao
2016-01-06  8:50         ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-25 15:07     ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-01-28 12:45     ` Greg Troxel
2015-12-31 10:15 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-12-31 17:43   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-01 21:43   ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2015-12-31 17:04 ` Uwe Brauer
2016-01-18  7:26 gnus-summary-refer-parent-article bug Dave Abrahams
2016-01-18 12:43 ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-18 15:47   ` Dave Abrahams
2016-01-19  0:25     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-19 15:59       ` Dave Abrahams
2016-01-19 22:10         ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-20 11:04           ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-20 23:04             ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-21 10:21               ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-22  2:37                 ` Moving Gnus development to Emacs? Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-22  7:53                   ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-22  9:45                     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-22 11:28                       ` Michael Albinus
2016-01-24 23:35                         ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-25  1:58                           ` Mike Kupfer
2016-01-25  3:11                             ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-25 13:12                             ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-22 12:25                       ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-25  1:37                   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-02-06  5:51                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-06 14:36                     ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-02-06 14:38                       ` Adam Sjøgren

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