From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45646 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steve Youngs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make gnus-summary-delete-article respect group parameters Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:36:42 +1000 Organization: The XEmacs Development Team Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1026400976 26544 127.0.0.1 (11 Jul 2002 15:22:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:22:56 +0000 (UTC) Keywords: delete,del,article,mean,mail,gnus-summary-delete-article,articles Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17SfmS-0006u0-00 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:22:56 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17SflR-0002h6-00; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:21:53 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:22:16 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from epithumia.math.uh.edu (epithumia.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29177 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:22:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from tibbs@localhost) by epithumia.math.uh.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) id g6BFLgn28198 for ding@hpc.uh.edu; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:21:42 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA28843 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:41:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 3129 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 2002 11:41:26 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 3124 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2002 11:41:25 -0000 Original-Received: from mta06bw.bigpond.com (139.134.6.96) by gnus.org with SMTP; 11 Jul 2002 11:41:25 -0000 Original-Received: from eicq.dnsalias.org ([144.135.24.69]) by mta06bw.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta06bw May 23 2002 23:53:28) with SMTP id GZ31S700.5BC for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:40:55 +1000 Original-Received: from CTPP-p-144-134-149-229.prem.tmns.net.au ([144.134.149.229]) by bwmam01.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0n 2/530222); 11 Jul 2002 21:40:55 Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by eicq.dnsalias.org (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) id g6BBagbF030152; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:36:42 +1000 Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: Gnus List X-Attribution: SY X-URL: X-Face: %@A&y\ef)A6pi|q43;M>uyhO)~NP*fpdo0XrUuutf0|nku\O5JV(7EG%odc'n6}G@tYRl+B #[n,%B`.sHZ5>3MZvrm%,rWE7)c}ZXjH\>=p@AL\y\gyu|.lJ8B`F++86 Mail-Followup-To: Gnus List In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Tue, 09 Jul 2002 15:18:50 +0200") Original-Lines: 49 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.5 (broccoflower, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45646 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45646 |--==> "SJ" == Simon Josefsson writes: SJ> Yup. I also like B DEL to really delete the article, but I don't SJ> think it is important enough to modify existing behaviour. Let's wait SJ> for someone to report it as a bug, and then we can discuss it. :-) Well, consider this a bug report. IMO, B DEL should ignore all group parameters especially expiry settings. The only thing that B DEL should do is physically delete the article, completely, forever, do not pass go, do not collect 200 euro, the judges decision is final, no correspondence will be entered into. And up until I read this thread I'd been merrily B DEL'ing all the crud out of my mail groups. Now I find out that they haven't been deleted and are all hiding in my archives... sheesh. Please, Gnus boys 'n' girls, make B DEL do what B DEL should... Bloody DELete. Besides, just look at the doc for it... ,----[ C-h k B DEL ] | B DEL runs `gnus-summary-delete-article' | | `gnus-summary-delete-article' is an interactive compiled Lisp function | -- loaded from "gnus-sum" | (gnus-summary-delete-article &optional N) | | Documentation: | Delete the N next (mail) articles. | This command actually deletes articles. This is not a marking | command. The article will disappear forever from your life, never to | return. | If N is negative, delete backwards. | If N is nil and articles have been marked with the process mark, | delete these instead. `---- Now, I've read that a dozen or so times and I just can't make it mean "when we say 'delete' we don't actually mean delete, we mean run the article through the normal expiry functions and if you use expiry-targets to archive your mail the article will go into the archive and won't get deleted at all". -- |---------------------| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |---------------------------------------|