From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/36312 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Didier Verna Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [Q] primary / secondary methods differences Date: 22 May 2001 18:10:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171918 7922 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:45:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Gnus Beta Testers Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 29699 invoked by alias); 22 May 2001 16:13:37 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29694 invoked from network); 22 May 2001 16:13:36 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.epita.fr) (163.5.255.10) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 May 2001 16:13:36 -0000 Original-Received: from goa.lrde.epita.fr (mail@goa.lrde.epita.fr [10.223.13.2]) by hermes.epita.fr id SAA27491 Tue, 22 May 2001 18:10:08 GMT Original-Received: from uzeb.lrde.epita.fr ([10.223.13.53] ident=mail) by goa.lrde.epita.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 152Ekf-0004js-00; Tue, 22 May 2001 18:11:17 +0200 Original-Received: from didier by uzeb.lrde.epita.fr with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 152Ejq-0005c5-00; Tue, 22 May 2001 18:10:26 +0200 Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@cs.uni-dortmund.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) X-Attribution: drv X-Url: http://www.infres.enst.fr/~verna X-Web: http://www.infres.enst.fr/~verna X-Home-Page: http://www.infres.enst.fr/~verna In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "22 May 2001 17:08:04 +0200") X-Face: |j}\)O|k##MrRz#VK$Jy=0r=3Qc,,a/Tr6*JQbE73dy17]2YcmW$9Z&H21e}#~#pgc>dn(is5Bv1l!{1re+Q9suKIOUmOqZs2>QMxHlR;;}kaGYA@HR3D C6 X-Face: 6o|eiKqaHN.ANh8HXDzntcWUOCg\]RsOd.ctvm~*y}Y^R&*a+Co,\s#=HWsw3x$b_n2kJ#g (7u?J^@^xP)f,jUF|0Z'J:|G/bMA5O12*b,7`-Q`=pKsCRIpso07.Y>YB2H{7`?u&yh;C_ZtLHfj On 22 May 2001, Didier Verna wrote: >=20 > > Implementing `gnus-select-methods' while maintaining backward > > compatibility doesn't look too difficult to me. I'm more sceptical > > on the latter point though. >=20 > How should it deal with the prefix/no prefix problem? Maybe it's a > good thing to always have a prefix for the group names, but if you > treat the first entry in gnus-select-methods differently, you're back > to square one. Yup. Actually, I don't find the primary group dynamic selection useful. At least, not if we provide a more general server selection scheme = at startup (I don't see how one would find that skiping the prefix is an obsolutely necessary feature...). As far as backward compatibility is concerned, what we could do if make gnus accept a nil primary method, and then use `gnus-secondary-select-methods' as my `gnus-select-methods' variable. Then,= we could have a `gnus-select' function understanding the numeric prefix convention, but also letting you choose the methods you want to enable at startup. The important idea is to separate the notions of selection by level= / selection by server. --=20 Didier Verna, didier@lrde.epita.fr, http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier EPITA / LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel.+33 (1) 53 14 59 47 94276 Le Kremlin-Bic=EAtre, France Fax.+33 (1) 44 08 01 99 didier@xemac= s.org