From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64533 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Didier Verna Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mixing whitespace and topical changes Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:14:16 +0200 Organization: The Gnus Project Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176794128 6872 80.91.229.12 (17 Apr 2007 07:15:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:15:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Katsumi Yamaoka Original-X-From: ding-owner+M13044@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Apr 17 09:15:21 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HdhuK-0002sA-Q0 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:15:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hdhtx-0001gf-SL; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:14:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hdhtu-0001gC-NV for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:14:54 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hdhto-0000Uz-7y for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:14:54 -0500 Original-Received: from 2.139.39-62.rev.gaoland.net ([62.39.139.2] helo=kualalumpur.lrde.epita.fr) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Hdhtn-0004NJ-00 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:14:47 +0200 Original-Received: from uzeb.lrde.epita.fr ([192.168.101.53]) by kualalumpur.lrde.epita.fr with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HdhtI-0006aG-Jx; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:14:16 +0200 Original-Received: by uzeb.lrde.epita.fr (Postfix, from userid 17030) id 5BEEC5E239; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:14:16 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Tue\, 17 Apr 2007 11\:04\:38 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) XEmacs/21.4.20 (linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEVEMyiZb1uATD6vhnK4 tLA1iVfMAAAACXBIWXMAAAsSAAALEgHS3X78AAABw0lEQVQ4y2WU25HsIAxEgXEAktgAkOomQOEA xrvOP6bbAmMzu9R8eDhuPRrhcJ7hz/p3Yvd89+eygtcNTM1W0gFhn1VkBdulYGVfi2gfChbmT7R1 IMpzzYARQJK4IDeuDwieI1L1/VZB6gy2OeAuwMqL5AK+DQnWAkjH+zVDweUB/LoUH3WF86CZwrMz LaGufa+31kWxfeXadlc0ZEGONKvKEOxNSuHavCwN1BWeYq8UPFdFlhgrjaqQ4oCTjEiNM7Ee40zQ YKbAufoPiqJ1AK++KCUy7aE08agqcmZFipCQ3BU8FAei4F+sRbrFHFMc5aK+DLuRqnZfiLaRAx19 tWo2DHBwTco7pDxA+wEgiRMkKJofbwd8DZ/PVhgxhsMm99C9Q3aTuqCy2A0OKNDZdSb2gNN8R3SM wwq8syzmOhRRHnB8sRsIr2AiLYDy7vWK6TLADvj4QVUm3iTHebSu2Ha2lCxY4riGer9aKqGYisk9 P2eXlEAR1wfB4geAWhTmS9F7eDv4hvWG5tSe29sBDit5qTIC2Q18XhSSy1i6Qf86pNm0lgf4Ozqb jr9AnNfJnuT9uxEvM9JvMCP9ATTMC6n4w38EfGxRLd9ujQAAACZ6VFh0Q29tbWVudAAAeNpzLkpN LElNUSjPLMlQCMlIVXD39A0AAFLnByOQy2VwAAAAGnpUWHRKUEVHLUNvbG9yc3BhY2UAAHjaMwIA ADMAMxEWfmMAAAAnelRYdEpQRUctU2FtcGxpbmctZmFjdG9ycwAAeNozqjDSMawwBGEAEYMC6WQP G2IAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Face: /6c%'&RM1H'ZY/"G{_(rdgTc_F^8\ozDF_F9[L;^DFP2@emdP/X_Dvb=8#L2t4x;rREP~wa {",`H8;8:y,@_I4e0^IM_oClbi0yf%6{o X-Attribution: dvl X-Web: http://www.gnus.org X-Url: http://www.gnus.org X-Home-Page: http://www.gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64533 Archived-At: Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: > I did the same before, but now I keep clean only things that I > changed. It is enough for me that Lars ever said to me "Don't use > whitespace.el or equivalent when changing Gnus.". IIRC, he said he > agrees to make source code clean all together but it should be done > independently to topical changes. Who's Lars ? ;-) > So, I don't mix whitespace changes and topical changes as much as > possible. Or else, not only the maintainers who check the validity of > changes but also people who read CVS diffs will be bothered if there > are such changes. But my point is that 1/ if all CVS committers keep files clean automatically, the situation would not happen, and 2/ even if it does, you don't have to see the whitespaces difference; there are options in diff and such to just ignore them. > Making source code clean is generally good. But I think it should be > done line by line manually at least in Gnus. What do you think about > this? > > (insert "One space character is here>=20 > ") > > It is a bad habit of course, though. You're gonna have to give me a more convincing example :-) > Let me write repeatedly; please don't use tabs in texi files.=20 > Especially for sections in which the indentation is meaningful, like > @lisp ... @end lisp. Again, please show me *precisely* a problematic example. --=20 Read the Jazz Blog !! http://jazzblog.didierverna.com Didier Verna, didier@lrde.epita.fr, http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier EPITA / LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel.+33 (1) 44 08 01 85 94276 Le Kremlin-Bic=EAtre, France Fax.+33 (1) 53 14 59 22 didier@xemac= s.org