From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35896 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Didier Verna Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: A road map for Oort Gnus Date: 17 Apr 2001 20:08:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171573 5590 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:39:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 19933 invoked by alias); 17 Apr 2001 17:56:33 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 19928 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 17:56:32 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.epita.fr) (163.5.255.10) by gnus.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 17:56:32 -0000 Original-Received: from goa.lrde.epita.fr (mail@goa.lrde.epita.fr [10.223.13.2]) by hermes.epita.fr id TAA16277 for EPITA Paris France Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:53:08 GMT Original-Received: from uzeb.lrde.epita.fr ([10.223.13.53]) by goa.lrde.epita.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14pZkV-0003N1-00 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:58:47 +0200 Original-Received: from didier by uzeb.lrde.epita.fr with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14pZu7-0005J2-00 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:08:43 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: drv X-Url: http://www.infres.enst.fr/~verna X-Web: http://www.infres.enst.fr/~verna X-Home-Page: http://www.infres.enst.fr/~verna In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "14 Apr 2001 15:22:45 +0200") X-Face: |j}\)O|k##MrRz#VK$Jy=0r=3Qc,,a/Tr6*JQbE73dy17]2YcmW$9Z&H21e}#~#pgc>dn(is5Bv1l!{1re+Q9suKIOUmOqZs2>QMxHlR;;}kaGYA@HR3D C6 X-Face: 6o|eiKqaHN.ANh8HXDzntcWUOCg\]RsOd.ctvm~*y}Y^R&*a+Co,\s#=HWsw3x$b_n2kJ#g (7u?J^@^xP)f,jUF|0Z'J:|G/bMA5O12*b,7`-Q`=pKsCRIpso07.Y>YB2H{7`?u&yh;C_ZtLHfj The things you mention are that way for (more or less) good reasons. > For instance, you have the group parameters, but you also have > variables that match on group names that give the same results as > group parameters. The reason for that being that some users like to > write Lisp code, and others like to type `G c' on fifty groups. And > so on. Since people are different, there has to be different ways of > doing things. Having different ways to do things is indeed a good thing (*not* to= be able to type G c fifty times, though :-). I even think there are somes plac= es at which more ways to do things would be required. For instance, I have on my gnus todo list an entry saying "add a gnus-group-parameters variable", for when that makes sense of course (not timestamp and stuff). This should be the usual list of (REGEXP VALUE) pairs, the regexp matching group names, and the value being group parameters. The inheritance being: local group-parameters <- topic parameters <- gnus-group-parameters pretty much like posting styles, actually. Having different ways to do it is indeed important but maybe not for what you're saying here, Lars (people preferring custom or list code). It is important because there are so many ways to organize your Gnus session that there's no reason why things should be orthogonal. For instance, I have a group buffer that is sorted by Mail / News, but then, I have an XEmacs Mail topic which contains mostly mailing lists, but also some newsgroups... With= out these many ways to do things, it would be a nightmare to setup your preferences in a concise (though complex) way. The question of actually mastering the Ways, and using them efficiently is another story. -- Didier Verna, didier@lrde.epita.fr, http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier EPITA / LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel.+33 (1) 53 14 59 47 94276 Le Kremlin-Bic=EAtre, France Fax.+33 (1) 44 08 01 99 didier@xemac= s.org