From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57098 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Didier Verna Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: [Q] why using spam.el ? Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:39:28 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1082569528 19556 80.91.224.253 (21 Apr 2004 17:45:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5638@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Apr 21 19:45:19 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BGLmg-0004LW-00 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:45:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BGLmE-0005lZ-00; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:44:50 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BGKlI-0005a8-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:39:48 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BGKlG-0008Bd-Na for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:39:46 -0500 Original-Received: from deliver.epitech.net (deliver.epitech.net [163.5.0.25]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFA6D3A0076 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:39:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from epita.fr ([10.42.1.60]) by deliver.epitech.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2004042118360002468 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:36:00 +0200 Original-Received: from kualalumpur.lrde.epita.fr (kualalumpur.lrde.epita.fr [10.223.13.1]) by epita.fr id i3LGdZD17777 for EPITA Paris France Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:39:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from debian.lrde.epita.fr ([10.223.13.53] helo=uzeb.lrde.epita.fr ident=mail) by kualalumpur.lrde.epita.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BGKlP-00066w-00 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:39:55 +0200 Original-Received: from didier by uzeb.lrde.epita.fr with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BGKky-0004qW-00 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:39:28 +0200 Original-To: Gnus Beta Testers X-Attribution: dvl X-Url: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier X-Web: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier X-Home-Page: http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEXx8e8RCQJnRTGQZU/g rJMxIRO2gGfLkXWHfpunAAACRElEQVR4nF2UPW/bMBCGhSTwrgbc62PZueXBzBo0qjWTBjMXpk3t jSD9/b53tIKkhC0bfPjeN9V1u0Pfm5x7WTnniMdzJ+sOe4nJCWgH8jcFv7AfamHXJIK/qORvNLZi sctqCSD+EHCOp1pqndbiiVxU3aOCHGR7XZdai29BmD8C4GGtAvAppBLzClBsUcGAb128xtA/Pguo OD+P8ygq37yYr133xgqGQcBaXPMCWy8KhhtYvEbcpxuYG1im9SyKaHLX3fO0bgCkwEnafwISljrJ 1ECY1MUGKCfa95+BGHtz2dqfvRGg+0dmkjyrp8DXvm+K+flIloNWrNhQDwJ2ksXoUpiak8rh2IC4 OKeqVRQJh3Gv4Kki31Cst6EBHp2CsE5voSRPts7IsjKvCu5P4vTwerSslQR4UnCHls8L4/x0A/67 +nhwzsIEgNZ+AbBREuyuJ8JOQckUFCZq4PcjXYZhuTVFgHQR4IEEjFvtAdCSqLOYLtqMVuGi46pg l8R4bT1ZPoDOKphWESzsdcAVSGbYmWSC/gfrDBsyeBjTLaqmGMqEYkwNbIqCcFeMNHqF64CZNzfw 8jQsuAOsAH/yZmoXRn9IxKFwEZA28OCZ0KqA5Bguctpv4JBxSeosAOlh4G6gu6eENknEct2yfQc7 RxRwbdB48jnx5kNs2coXhOpFcI7xHfSJ7ISYHWWAvIHuGk0KS/Euu5jg6F1xjobweiAkh/eH+wD2 hriqJWMl4s3Uyx4vFAhyNtn69BlIIwDwe8JQ/wMbDgtIyW8tRQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Face: ,X|Q'%Fxm9}2R8G?|mF[I2(7rx5e{ Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57098 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57098 Hi folks ! Out of curiosity, I'm wondering why some people felt the need for such a th= ing as spam.el. In my own experience, I use spamassassin via procmail (with a very simple s= pam detection scheme in gnus making the default (last) folder of nnmail-split-methods to a group named "spam"). After bayesian training over 6000 messages (3000 spam, 3000 non spam), my spamassassin undetected spam r= ate fell from 200 per day to 1 or 2 per day. Currently, the only thing I use in spam.el is the M-d key sequence, which i= s a bit overkill ;-) --=20 Didier Verna, didier@lrde.epita.fr, http://www.lrde.epita.fr/~didier EPITA / LRDE, 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel.+33 (1) 44 08 01 85 94276 Le Kremlin-Bic=EAtre, France Fax.+33 (1) 53 14 59 22 didier@xemac= s.org