From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/11705 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aharon Schkolnik Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Please help me create a nnbabyl group Date: 18 Jul 1997 10:52:13 +0300 Sender: aharon@healdb.matat.health.gov.il Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035151371 31958 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:02:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id BAA06283 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 01:29:52 -0700 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA07187 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 03:26:34 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:48:03 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 17371 invoked by uid 504); 18 Jul 1997 07:47:57 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 17368 invoked from network); 18 Jul 1997 07:47:56 -0000 Original-Received: from mail2.health.gov.il (HELO healdb.matat.health.gov.il) (199.203.49.196) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 1997 07:47:54 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14057 invoked by uid 12); 18 Jul 1997 07:52:14 -0000 Original-To: Kai Grossjohann In-Reply-To: Kai Grossjohann's message of 17 Jul 1997 13:57:15 +0200 Original-Lines: 67 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11705 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11705 >>>>> "Kai" == Kai Grossjohann writes: >>>>> Aharon Schkolnik writes: Aharon> I save articles using gnus-summary-save-in-rmail (I would Aharon> be willing to change to gnus-summary-save-in-mail if that Aharon> would help anything). This generates a babyl format file Aharon> (one per group). Later, I want to go back, look at these Aharon> saved messages, and delete some of them. Kai> Create nnfolder groups. This is a one-file-per-group, Kai> many-messages-per-file, backend, and uses Unix mbox format Kai> for the files. Let's see if I've got this straight: 1. I shouldn't use babyl format to save messages because there is no backend which will read the resulting file (one file per group) and allow message deletion (erasing from the disk - not just marking). 2. If I switch to gnus-summary-save-in-mail, I will generate mbox format files - one per group. I can then use nnfolder to read the resulting files, and I will be able to delete messages. Kai> Use "B c" to copy a message from any group (nntp groups work, Kai> too) into such an nnfolder group. ("B m" moves the message, Kai> so it works for writable groups only.) 3. In order to transfer the messages which I have saved in babyl format, I need to create nndoc groups, use B c to move the messages to nnfolder groups, delete the old babyl files using the shell - not Gnus. Kai> But then, if you're using "B c" there is no restriction on Kai> the backend of the target group, so you can use nnml and Kai> nnmh, too. Yeah, but my main concern is how best to save messages from gnus (gnus-summary-save-in-*) and then to be able to delete the saved messages - for that, I understand, the best (only ?) choice is nnfolder. If I understand everything correctly, it would seem strange that there is a backend which can delete from mbox format - one group per file, but there is no backend which can delete from babyl format - one group per file. If this is true, is there some good reason for it ? Thanks a lot ! -- The day is short, and the work is great, | Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | Aharon@Health.Gov.IL is great, and the Master of the house is | impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2 |