expiration broken???

expiration broken???

[Andreas Kaempf]

hi all...

i have been trying for quit a while to get the expiration process
working on my mail articles without avail and am wondering is it me or
is something broken...

what i want to do is expire articles that come in immediately and not
have them written to disk...  or if that is not possibel have them
expire at some time...

i have read the manual and have the following in my .gnus but it does
expire the articles in the summary buffer by putting an "E" next to it
but it does not get rid of them from the disk...

.gnus info:

;; GNUS definitions

(setq nnmail-delete-incoming t)
(setq nnmail-split-methods
	     '(("xemacs"  "^\\(To\\|Cc\\):.*xemacs*")
	       ("ntemacs"      "^\\(From\\|To\\|^CC\\):.*ntemacs-users")
	       ("fvwm"         "^\\(To\\|Cc\\):.*fvwm")
	       ("tvro"         "^\\(To\\|Cc\\):.*TVROSAT@")
	       ("TM"           "^\\(To\\|Cc\\):.*tm-en")
	       ("ding_gnus"    "^\\(To\\|Cc\\):.*ding@")
	       ("ding_bug"     "^\\(From\\|To\\|Cc\\):.*gnus-bug@")
	       ("susan"        "^From:.*sclark")
	       ("denise"        "^From:.*denise")		
	       ("andreas"      "^From:.*andreas")
	       ("lisa"         "^From:.*lkaempf")
	       ("Misc"         "")))

;; this does not work or even expire articles in the summary buffer
(setq gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups t)

;; then i tried this and it does not work
(setq gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups "TM\\|Misc\\|andreas")

;; this works in summary buffer by making everything expired
(setq gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups "xemacs\\|ntemacs\\|fvwm\\|tvro\\|TM\\|ding_gnus\\|ding_bug\\|andreas\\|Misc")

;; this does not seem to work as articles are still being out in mail
;;directories 
(setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
	(lambda (group)
	  (cond ((string= group "TM\\|Misc\\|andreas")
	          'immediate)
                (t
                 6))))

i also ran "C-c M-C-x" as suggested but i still leaves articles in dir
 
i am sure it is something i am doing....

any help would be appreciated...

andreas
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Re: expiration broken???

[Colin Rafferty]

Andreas Kaempf writes:

> i have been trying for quit a while to get the expiration process
> working on my mail articles without avail and am wondering is it me or
> is something broken...

> what i want to do is expire articles that come in immediately and not
> have them written to disk...  or if that is not possibel have them
> expire at some time...

They will always be written to disk, since you have to read them before
they get expired.

> i have read the manual and have the following in my .gnus but it does
> expire the articles in the summary buffer by putting an "E" next to it
> but it does not get rid of them from the disk...

See below for the correct `nnmail-expiry-wait-function' (which is the
real problem).  I will 

> (setq nnmail-delete-incoming t)

The deletes the Incomingxxm0005x files, not the mail articles.  You
probably want to leave this `nil' and delete the files in `cron'.

> ;; this does not work or even expire articles in the summary buffer
> (setq gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups t)

> (setq nnmail-split-methods
> 	     '(("xemacs"  "^\\(To\\|Cc\\):.*xemacs*")
> [...]

This is correct (as you know).

> ;; then i tried this and it does not work
> (setq gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups "TM\\|Misc\\|andreas")

This should be correct.  Note that it will not mark articles with `E'
since it expires everything (except `!' and `*').

> ;; this works in summary buffer by making everything expired
> (setq gnus-auto-expirable-newsgroups "xemacs\\|ntemacs\\|fvwm\\|tvro\\|TM\\|ding_gnus\\|ding_bug\\|andreas\\|Misc")

If you really want total (which most people do), don't bother with
auto.  This will mark everything `E', and that will cause adaptive
scoring to lose big.

> ;; this does not seem to work as articles are still being out in mail
> ;;directories 
> (setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
> 	(lambda (group)
> 	  (cond ((string= group "TM\\|Misc\\|andreas")
> 	          'immediate)
>                 (t
>                  6))))

Don't use `string=' with a regexp; use `string-match'.  Try this:

(setq nnmail-expiry-wait-function
      (lambda (newsgroup)
        (cond ((string-match "TM\\|Misc\\|andreas" newsgroup) 'immediate)
	      (t 6))))

> i also ran "C-c M-C-x" as suggested but i still leaves articles in dir

Because of `nnmail-expiry-wait-function'.  Everything is waiting six days.

> any help would be appreciated...

No problem.  Let me know if this all works.

-- 
Colin