From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47896 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (=?iso-8859-1?q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus 5.9.0 - Arithmetic error Date: 26 Nov 2002 08:10:37 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <84d6otk0a6.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <84r8d9v11n.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <844ra4wzds.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038316189 27971 80.91.224.249 (26 Nov 2002 13:09:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18GfTI-0007Gs-00 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:09:48 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18GfUg-0007LL-00; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:11:14 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:12:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@[209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA21980 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:11:45 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 8825 invoked by alias); 26 Nov 2002 13:10:47 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 8819 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2002 13:10:47 -0000 Original-Received: from jaseur.sram.qc.ca (postfix@207.35.30.8) by gnus.org with SMTP; 26 Nov 2002 13:10:47 -0000 Original-Received: from carouge.sram.qc.ca.progiciels-bpi.ca (carouge-207.sram.qc.ca [207.35.30.105]) by jaseur.sram.qc.ca (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.2 (i386)) with ESMTP id 2C27334950; Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:10:38 +0100 (CET) Original-To: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) X-Face: "b_m|CE6#'Q8fliQrwHl9K,]PA_o'*S~Dva{~b1n*)K*A(BIwQW.:LY?t4~xhYka_.LV?Qq `}X|71X0ea&H]9Dsk!`kxBXlG;q$mLfv_vtaHK_rHFKu]4'<*LWCyUe@ZcI6"*wB5M@[m Original-Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.92 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47896 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47896 [Kai Großjohann] > I'm not sure how to proceed now. What do others say? Do we put > this single fix in Gnus 5.9 or is Emacs 21.4 going to contain Gnus > 5.11 anyway? Note that the arithmetic error I reported is rather unusual. I got it _once_ over many years of Gnus usage and many, many hundreds of thousands of articles. Despite the correction is necessary, it is far from urgent. Gnus 5.9 should of course receive "urgent" fixes, but Gnus is pretty stable, there are not so many of those serious problems, all considered. >From having observed it more than once, I know that deadlines may scratch quality. The same way GNU packages may have to be rushed out in time for some CD mastering, Gnus versions may have to meet Emacs releases... Best is probably to let Oort Gnus mature, as comfortably as possible. Nice theories, yet real life is usually not that simple. Sigh! :-) -- François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard