From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39988 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (=?iso-8859-1?q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: thoughts on spam Date: 04 Nov 2001 12:23:18 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87y9m9fs6b.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <87elo1exsd.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <20011102160930.CC3D1BD52@squeaker.lickey.com> <87wv192jzh.fsf_-_@mclinux.com> <861yjgbygz.fsf@duchess.twilley.org> <20011102235444.E9C73BD48@squeaker.lickey.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175610 30858 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:46:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "(ding)" Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 14062 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 17:23:12 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 17:23:12 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 160Qyx-0003F8-00; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 11:22:51 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 04 Nov 2001 11:22:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA07966 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:22:17 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 14026 invoked by alias); 4 Nov 2001 17:22:32 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14021 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 17:22:32 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO rd.sram.qc.ca) (postfix@207.35.30.100) by gnus.org with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 17:22:32 -0000 Original-Received: from carouge.sram.qc.ca.progiciels-bpi.ca (carouge.sram.qc.ca [207.35.30.105]) by rd.sram.qc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id F160B1E5B7; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:25:05 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Stainless Steel Rat X-Face: "b_m|CE6#'Q8fliQrwHl9K,]PA_o'*S~Dva{~b1n*)K*A(BIwQW.:LY?t4~xhYka_.LV?Qq `}X|71X0ea&H]9Dsk!`kxBXlG;q$mLfv_vtaHK_rHFKu]4'<*LWCyUe@ZcI6"*wB5M@[m Original-Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39988 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39988 [Stainless Steel Rat] > Yeah, but you know, not using qmail has one really, really important benfit > to me: I don't use qmail. Whether or not qmail sucks is not the issue. > Dan Bernstein is the issue. I simply refuse to voluntarilly use any of > his software, and there is absolutely nothing that anyone can say that > will get me to change my mind, simple as that. I heartedly agree. Daniel has beaten all known records for the rate at which one may create own enemies. He kept silent and quiet for many years, maybe so people may forget him, but I've no proof the guy is different. Note that I never had problems personally with him, but seeing how he behaved with many, many others, I just do not want that guy in my life. Besides, whatever the license is, however competent is the writer, haughtily maintained software is never as free as it appears to be. When someone is spitting on you and you may not easily run away, you just can't feel free. The best way to not become dependent on Qmail is to never start using it. -- François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard