* hyphenation & MIME wrapping
@ 1999-07-02 13:41 Robert Bihlmeyer
1999-07-02 18:36 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-07-04 16:10 ` François Pinard
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From: Robert Bihlmeyer @ 1999-07-02 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I remembered a feature wish of mine while pondering the dict.el stuff.
What I think would be a cool addition to gnus/emacs is automatic
hyphenation (AFAIK there are algorithms for that and you don't need
wordlists and stuff). Word-wrapping while composing could be augmented
to deal with supercalifragilistically long words. For Gnus, this helps
message composition, and the display of articles.
For example, pgnus treats MIMEish soft-returns ("=\n") wrong. It
ignores it completely, resulting in a very long line which is
displayed by emacs in the default (read: unreadable) way. These
paragraphs should be wrapped to the present line-width, to be in the
spirit of MIME. Even giving up and treating soft-returns as proper
returns is better than the current solution.
Robbe
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* Re: hyphenation & MIME wrapping
1999-07-02 13:41 hyphenation & MIME wrapping Robert Bihlmeyer
@ 1999-07-02 18:36 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-07-04 4:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-05 17:38 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
1999-07-04 16:10 ` François Pinard
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From: Kai.Grossjohann @ 1999-07-02 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud2.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
> For example, pgnus treats MIMEish soft-returns ("=\n") wrong.
I thought that these were a way to send long lines via sites which
have some affinity to the eighty-column mindset? Please note that
often, the soft return comes after the 72nd (or so) character, in the
middle of a word.
I think the wrapping of long lines should be the same, whether
MIME-encoded with soft returns or not.
See also `W w'.
kai
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* Re: hyphenation & MIME wrapping
1999-07-02 18:36 ` Kai.Grossjohann
@ 1999-07-04 4:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-05 17:38 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-07-04 4:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:
> > For example, pgnus treats MIMEish soft-returns ("=\n") wrong.
>
> I thought that these were a way to send long lines via sites which
> have some affinity to the eighty-column mindset?
They are.
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larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: hyphenation & MIME wrapping
1999-07-02 13:41 hyphenation & MIME wrapping Robert Bihlmeyer
1999-07-02 18:36 ` Kai.Grossjohann
@ 1999-07-04 16:10 ` François Pinard
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From: François Pinard @ 1999-07-04 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud2.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
> For example, pgnus treats MIMEish soft-returns ("=\n") wrong.
I do not think this concept is part of MIME (text/enriched put aside :-).
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* Re: hyphenation & MIME wrapping
1999-07-02 18:36 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-07-04 4:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1999-07-05 17:38 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
1999-07-05 17:45 ` Kai.Grossjohann
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From: Robert Bihlmeyer @ 1999-07-05 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
>>>>> On 02 Jul 1999 20:36:05 +0200
>>>>> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE said:
Kai> Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud2.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
>> For example, pgnus treats MIMEish soft-returns ("=\n") wrong.
Kai> I thought that these were a way to send long lines via sites
Kai> which have some affinity to the eighty-column mindset? Please
Kai> note that often, the soft return comes after the 72nd (or so)
Kai> character, in the middle of a word.
Hmm, the usage I saw was to only do hard line-breaks only at paragraph
endings, and soft line-breaks where needed to stay under 76 chars
width. But obviously, this is not The Way MIME Intended It. I rest my
case.
Kai> See also `W w'.
This wraps the whole article, which is very wrong if tabular material,
C code, etc is included. Sigh.
Robbe
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* Re: hyphenation & MIME wrapping
1999-07-05 17:38 ` Robert Bihlmeyer
@ 1999-07-05 17:45 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-07-06 15:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Kai.Grossjohann @ 1999-07-05 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud2.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
> Kai> See also `W w'.
>
> This wraps the whole article, which is very wrong if tabular material,
> C code, etc is included. Sigh.
There was also talk on this list about a command which wraps only long
lines. I'm not sure what became of it, though.
kai
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* Re: hyphenation & MIME wrapping
1999-07-05 17:45 ` Kai.Grossjohann
@ 1999-07-06 15:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1999-07-06 16:17 ` Kai.Grossjohann
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1999-07-06 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:
> There was also talk on this list about a command which wraps only long
> lines. I'm not sure what became of it, though.
It became `W q'. :-)
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larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: hyphenation & MIME wrapping
1999-07-06 15:50 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1999-07-06 16:17 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-07-06 18:55 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
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From: Kai.Grossjohann @ 1999-07-06 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:
>
> > There was also talk on this list about a command which wraps only long
> > lines. I'm not sure what became of it, though.
>
> It became `W q'. :-)
Hm? `C-h c W q' sez "W q runs the command
gnus-article-de-quoted-unreadable". I also tested this, it didn't do
anything with long lines.
`W w' also fills short lines which is not what we were looking for.
kai
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* Re: hyphenation & MIME wrapping
1999-07-06 16:17 ` Kai.Grossjohann
@ 1999-07-06 18:55 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
1999-07-07 10:02 ` Kai.Grossjohann
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From: Michael Welsh Duggan @ 1999-07-06 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:
> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
> > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:
> >
> > > There was also talk on this list about a command which wraps only long
> > > lines. I'm not sure what became of it, though.
> >
> > It became `W q'. :-)
>
> Hm? `C-h c W q' sez "W q runs the command
> gnus-article-de-quoted-unreadable". I also tested this, it didn't do
> anything with long lines.
>
> `W w' also fills short lines which is not what we were looking for.
Looks like it's `W Q'.
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* Re: hyphenation & MIME wrapping
1999-07-06 18:55 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
@ 1999-07-07 10:02 ` Kai.Grossjohann
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From: Kai.Grossjohann @ 1999-07-07 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
Michael Welsh Duggan <md5i@cs.cmu.edu> writes:
> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:
>
> > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> >
> > > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:
> > >
> > > > There was also talk on this list about a command which wraps only long
> > > > lines. I'm not sure what became of it, though.
> > >
> > > It became `W q'. :-)
> >
> > Hm? `C-h c W q' sez "W q runs the command
> > gnus-article-de-quoted-unreadable".
>
> Looks like it's `W Q'.
Oh. :-( Silly me.
kai
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