From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/21030 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Pinard?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: More charset things Date: 07 Feb 1999 15:43:18 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87d83qkyjf.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> <87ognahyoh.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035159214 20893 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:13:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xemacs-mule@xemacs.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22761 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:46:36 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAB21097; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:45:12 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:45:38 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13858 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:45:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from jupiter.rtsq.qc.ca (rtsq.grics.qc.ca [199.84.132.81]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22731 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:45:22 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from ariel.progiciels-bpi.ca by jupiter.rtsq.qc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29961; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:44:32 -0500 Original-Received: from iro.umontreal.ca (uucp@localhost) by ariel.progiciels-bpi.ca (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI) via UUCP id QAA15524; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:46:06 -0800 Original-Received: from titan.progiciels-bpi.ca.progiciels-bpi.ca by icule.progiciels-bpi.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02432; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:43:24 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "b_m|CE6#'Q8fliQrwHl9K,]PA_o'*S~Dva{~b1n*)K*A(BIwQW.:LY?t4~xhYka_.LV?Qq `}X|71X0ea&H]9Dsk!`kxBXlG;q$mLfv_vtaHK_rHFKu]4'<*LWCyUe@ZcI6"*wB5M@[m writes: > > > That's not my table. :-) When MULE supports utf-8, Gnus will > > > support utf-8. > > That is not a nice way of thinking. > I don't see any other way of thinking. Grokking utf-8 is way outside > the scope of Gnus -- it has to be an Emacs thing. In a way, UTF-8 or Base64 are coding schemes. I see no strong reason for Gnus to be favourable to one without being to the other, except maybe that Base64 is usable in CTE, while UTF-8 is probably not going to be. UTF-8 is really simple, by comparison with other things in the field of charsets, and much more simple that what Gnus already does about the whole thing. Lars, I can send you documentation and C code, if you feel like it. > Could that someone (or someone else) re-recommend the book(s) that I > should buy to get both an introduction and more in-depth knowledge about > charset issues? *The* reference, which I never seen (my librarian says the editor is out of stock), is supposed to be the Ken Lunde book, in the ORA series. From: Brendan_Murray/DUB/Lotus@lotus.com Subject: Re: unicode <-> hex converter (fwd) To: pinard@IRO.UMontreal.CA Date: 1997-04-11 09:38:40 +01:00 For information on Asian character sets, try picking up a copy of Ken Lunde's text for his next book. It should be on ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/examples/nutshell/ujip/doc/cjk.inf. His first book, "Understanding Japanese Information Processing" is so good that it has been translated to Japanese, and is used over there by many developers (one of the guys in our Tokyo office thought Ken Lunde was Japanese - that's how good it is!) - if you're doing anything with the Japanese encoding systems, I heartily recommend this. By the way, you'll find code snippets sprinkled around that part of the FTP site, with different encoding transformations. Brendan -- François Pinard mailto:pinard@iro.umontreal.ca Join the free Translation Project! http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard