From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46803 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (=?iso-8859-1?q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Offline mail and group cooperation Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:59:27 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <878z1smmjp.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87vg4s5ezg.fsf@lackawana.kippona.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033149703 23377 127.0.0.1 (27 Sep 2002 18:01:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17uzQs-00064q-00 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:01:42 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17uzPa-0004bA-00; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:00:22 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:01:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20012 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:00:44 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 27056 invoked by alias); 27 Sep 2002 18:00:00 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27051 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2002 18:00:00 -0000 Original-Received: from jaseur.sram.qc.ca (postfix@207.35.30.8) by gnus.org with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 18:00:00 -0000 Original-Received: from titan.progiciels-bpi.ca (maison.sram.qc.ca [207.35.30.203]) by jaseur.sram.qc.ca (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.2 (i386)) with ESMTP id B877E3C6F7; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:59:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by titan.progiciels-bpi.ca (Postfix on SuSE Linux 8.0 (i386)) with ESMTP id 70064301CF; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by titan.progiciels-bpi.ca (Postfix on SuSE Linux 8.0 (i386), from userid 405) id 345C6301C4; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Christoph Garbers X-Face: "b_m|CE6#'Q8fliQrwHl9K,]PA_o'*S~Dva{~b1n*)K*A(BIwQW.:LY?t4~xhYka_.LV?Qq `}X|71X0ea&H]9Dsk!`kxBXlG;q$mLfv_vtaHK_rHFKu]4'<*LWCyUe@ZcI6"*wB5M@[m (Christoph Garbers's message of "Fri, 27 Sep 2002 19:05:12 +0200") Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre5 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46803 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46803 [Christoph Garbers] > * Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann): >>> uucp is attractive for composing email while disconnected.=20=20 >>=20 >> So, functionality-wise, there is no difference between invoking UUCP to >> fetch news and mail, and invoking fetchnews (from leafnode) and fetchmail >> (from ESR) to fetch news and mail. > Correct. It is a protocol to copy files between unix systems. UUCP is still ideal for fetching or delivering mail over sporadically connected lines, in situations where the connection time is expensive, either in money, or loss of commodity of the only phone line. :-) Note that UUCP is not aware of the NNTP protocol. A newsfeed through UUCP is rather a massive, batch operation, while NNTP requires the interaction capabilities of the Internet. On the other hand, UUCP over PPP does not give much more, however, because PPP is already not so economical of the communication line. UUCP stands for Unix-to-Unix CoPy, but could do much more than mere copying. The copy facilities of UUCP were a base over which all the rest was built. UUCP predates the current Internet connectivity, and because of this, was once popular for various services besides news and mail, which have been the most well known applications of UUCP. You could remotely execute any program explicitly allowed to do so, and this has been used in many ways. --=20 Fran=E7ois Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard