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From: "François Pinard" <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Gnus and Emacs 20.3 and MIME
Date: 25 Aug 1998 10:21:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <oqaf4tgn1l.fsf@icule.progiciels-bpi.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Kai Grossjohann's message of "25 Aug 1998 13:49:42 +0200"

Kai Grossjohann <grossjohann@amaunet.cs.uni-dortmund.de> writes:

> What do you guys use for this combination?  [...]  I just want a fairly
> workable solution that carries me over until Gnus groks MIME.

I peeked a bit around, and decided for `mime-compose.el' at message
composition time.  It only handles flat multipart (which I do not create
often anyway), and it looks like enough for now -- I only mean here that
I can live with that, not that I'm really satisfied.  For single part
messages like this one, a simple hook adds the necessary fields in the
header, so the various sendmails around here could do on-the-fly conversion
to quoted-printable for sites having older (or misconfigured :-) sendmails.

At message read time, I manage with a few simple Emacs functions I wrote,
which call a recent pretest of `recode' under the scene to do specific
decodings.  Sometimes, rarely, for more complex messages, I `o' the message
into a Babyl file and visit it, so to trigger `rmime.el'.  Once again,
I can live with that, even if not satisfied.

I used TM/SEMI for a while, not getting discouraged by installation
complexities, until they dropped Gnus support as a patch over Gnus.  TM/SEMI
is surely a very competent and featureful effort.  Despite I prefer being
collaborative, I did not like much that they distribute a parallel branch
of Gnus, and decided to stick more closely to the original Gnus development.

Moreover, if I dare to say, despite MIME undoubtly has its own complexities,
I think MIME should be nothing more than an aspect of Gnus, and all things
should be kept in proportion.  We should at least _aim_ that Gnus has a
MIME implementation which stays simple and non-obtrusive.  So, I'm ready to
stay a bit MIME-less until Gnus groks MIME, which hopefully will happen soon.

-- 
François Pinard                            mailto:pinard@iro.umontreal.ca
Join the free Translation Project!    http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard


  reply	other threads:[~1998-08-25 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-08-25 11:49 Kai Grossjohann
1998-08-25 14:21 ` François Pinard [this message]
1998-08-25 14:55   ` Jean-Yves Perrier
1998-08-25 18:06   ` Edward J. Sabol
1998-08-26  6:32     ` Steinar Bang
1998-08-26 18:35       ` SL Baur
1998-08-25 14:45 ` Steinar Bang
1998-08-25 15:39   ` Alan Shutko
1998-08-25 20:53     ` Andy Eskilsson
1998-08-25 15:48   ` Jan Vroonhof
1998-08-25 17:28   ` François Pinard
1998-08-25 17:58     ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-08-25 21:34     ` SL Baur
1998-08-25 21:59       ` Alan Shutko
1998-08-25 21:50   ` SL Baur
1998-08-25 22:05     ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-08-25 23:01       ` Michael Harnois
1998-08-26  5:37   ` Kees de Bruin
1998-08-26 10:18     ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-08-26 12:56       ` Steinar Bang
1998-08-26 13:02       ` Kees de Bruin
1998-08-26 13:18         ` Jake Colman
1998-08-26 13:25           ` Steinar Bang
1998-08-26 13:42             ` Jean-Yves Perrier
1998-08-26 13:36           ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-08-26 13:56             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-08-26 16:53               ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-08-26 17:17                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-08-26 17:27                   ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-08-26 18:34               ` Dave Love
1998-08-26 13:30   ` Steinar Bang

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