From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/21462 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Pinard?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Just when I thought I had seen it all... Date: 23 Feb 1999 10:33:19 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87ww1qa9if.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> <87hfsdtkw4.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035159561 23072 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:19:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11726 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:36:28 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAB04153; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:35:46 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:36:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12434 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:35:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from jupiter.rtsq.qc.ca (rtsq.grics.qc.ca [199.84.132.81]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11699 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:35:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from ariel.progiciels-bpi.ca by jupiter.rtsq.qc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03959; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:34:07 -0500 Original-Received: from iro.umontreal.ca (uucp@localhost) by ariel.progiciels-bpi.ca (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI) via UUCP id KAA16533; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:36:16 -0800 Original-Received: from titan.progiciels-bpi.ca.progiciels-bpi.ca by icule.progiciels-bpi.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01321; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:33:32 -0500 Original-To: Steinar Bang X-Face: "b_m|CE6#'Q8fliQrwHl9K,]PA_o'*S~Dva{~b1n*)K*A(BIwQW.:LY?t4~xhYka_.LV?Qq `}X|71X0ea&H]9Dsk!`kxBXlG;q$mLfv_vtaHK_rHFKu]4'<*LWCyUe@ZcI6"*wB5M@[m écrit: > Is nndoc the thing fired off when you do C-d in the summary buffer? Yes. > If so, I rather like it, and have used it to step my way through forwarded > articles and digests and even to reply to and forward individual messages > in a digest. Damn! I thought it was a _feature_, and a rather good > one...! :-) Yes, `nndoc' has many niceties, and is undoubtedly useful. Among its capabilities, it can display the internal MIME structure tree and handle physical MIME parts as if each was a genuine, complete message in itself, and this was only this capability that was under discussion. They were two motivations behind making `nndoc' able to split MIME parts. The first was to be a debugging aid, to ease studying how MIME messages are really made inside, at a time Lars was starting to ponder how to implement MIME for real in Gnus. The second was an attempt to alleviate the trend of overloading MIME presentation with a lot of gadgets that would merely drawn the fish. Dumping internal structure, saving physical parts, finding suboptimal alternate parts, and many such other things, are very auxiliary to presentation. Some MIME viewers just make an horrible mix of everything, and miss the essentials. I wanted `nndoc' to be a way to un-pollute the MIME arena in advance, by providing right away an alternate device to soften various compulsions induced by other MIME readers. In so, it increased the chance that Lars would address the real thing with more freedom. -- François Pinard mailto:pinard@iro.umontreal.ca Join the free Translation Project! http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard