From: "François Pinard" <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: rsi@lucent.com, "(ding)" <ding@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: mh backend
Date: 15 Sep 1998 17:53:21 -400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <oqpvcxf3fy.fsf@icule.progiciels-bpi.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Richard Coleman's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:34:27 -0400"
> > > 1. Message sequences.
> > What are they?
> In MH/nmh, you can give symbolic names to an arbitrary list of
> numbers. Then you can manipulate the messages that these numbers
> represent, by using the message sequence. [...]
> In MH, I can assign a compound sequence of messages a name and can
> limit my operations to operate on specific sequences. [...]
Could mailgroups, or submailgroups, be used to similar purposes? Maybe not,
if a single message may be part of many sequences simultaneously. Let's
assume for a moment it would be possible...
> All the MH/nmh will take message sequences as arguments. Also, there are
> commands for adding or deleting messages from a sequence. This makes it
> very easy to remove, refile, search, or forward a collection of messages.
A bit like it would be easy to handle messages in mailgroups. `M P a'
could select all messages from a group, if I remember correctly.
> It's a very powerful tool. I've always wondered why other mail
> readers haven't done similar things.
Sometimes, there are other but different paradigms which have similar
powerfulness? It's always a bit difficult to compare different approaches.
Maybe you could define something that fits well in the various Gnus
paradigms, and that would give you the functionality you need?
> Well, it's common to repack the folder in the MH/nmh world. The message
> numbers are not hidden in the background quite as much as in Gnus.
Maybe (just hypothesising :-) because you often need to look at these
numbers. If you stopped having this need, probably the need to repack
would disappear as well?
> Yes, limiting takes care of matching on headers, but unless I'm
> missing something obvious, one cannot limit based on the contents
> message body.
For one, I do it with temporary scoring instead. Maybe it would be
convenient that have a limiting function for that as well? It might be slow.
> I find this occasionally useful when searching for a particular piece
> of email.
People speak highly of `nnir', maybe it could help? Maybe it is overkill?
> If I expire them, it leaves a gap in the message numbers and then the
> count of messages is inaccurate since Gnus calculates the number of
> articles based on the article numbers of the first and the last articles.
Maybe the good approach would to have Gnus count correctly, then?
Repacking numbers looks a fairly heavy operation, around a Gnus limitation
which might be lifted, presumably.
> I do think that I shall look into adapting and implementing some of
> the nifty MH features that I've been silently missing for so long. :-)
Good for us! :-)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~1998-09-15 21:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-09-14 22:51 Phil Humpherys
1998-09-15 7:45 ` Kai Grossjohann
[not found] ` <87lnnl9msl.fsf@lemmon.iomega.com>
1998-09-16 7:31 ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-09-16 7:37 ` Phil Humpherys
[not found] ` <x7g1dtfibe.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-09-15 18:06 ` Rajappa Iyer
1998-09-15 19:32 ` François Pinard
1998-09-15 20:34 ` Richard Coleman
1998-09-15 21:53 ` François Pinard [this message]
1998-09-15 22:43 ` Edward J. Sabol
1998-09-22 15:43 ` Justin Sheehy
1998-09-22 15:59 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1998-09-22 16:18 ` Alan Shutko
1998-09-23 8:33 ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-09-23 15:44 ` Matt Pharr
1998-09-23 16:45 ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-09-16 15:06 ` Per Abrahamsen
1998-09-15 20:43 ` Rajappa Iyer
1998-09-15 21:47 ` Phil Humpherys
1998-09-16 8:03 ` Kai Grossjohann
1998-09-16 9:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1998-09-15 21:39 ` David Hedbor
1998-09-16 8:06 ` Kai Grossjohann
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