From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39989 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (=?iso-8859-1?q?Fran=E7ois?= Pinard) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: thoughts on spam Date: 04 Nov 2001 12:33:53 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87y9m9fs6b.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <87elo1exsd.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <20011102160930.CC3D1BD52@squeaker.lickey.com> <87wv192jzh.fsf_-_@mclinux.com> <861yjgbygz.fsf@duchess.twilley.org> <20011102235444.E9C73BD48@squeaker.lickey.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175611 30866 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:46:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 14205 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 17:33:51 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 17:33:51 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 160R9D-0003NM-00; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 11:33:27 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 04 Nov 2001 11:33:06 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA08012 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:32:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 14191 invoked by alias); 4 Nov 2001 17:33:07 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14186 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 17:33:06 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO rd.sram.qc.ca) (postfix@207.35.30.100) by gnus.org with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 17:33:06 -0000 Original-Received: from carouge.sram.qc.ca.progiciels-bpi.ca (carouge.sram.qc.ca [207.35.30.105]) by rd.sram.qc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D6F1E607; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:35:41 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "b_m|CE6#'Q8fliQrwHl9K,]PA_o'*S~Dva{~b1n*)K*A(BIwQW.:LY?t4~xhYka_.LV?Qq `}X|71X0ea&H]9Dsk!`kxBXlG;q$mLfv_vtaHK_rHFKu]4'<*LWCyUe@ZcI6"*wB5M@[m Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39989 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39989 [Jason R. Mastaler] > I'm the first to admit DJB has a god-complex and the social graces of a > water buffalo. I use this software because it's brilliant, not because > of his personality or lack thereof. I do what's best for me, and can > leave my ego at the door to achieve that. It all depends on what's is best for you. If someone is ready to accept or even caution anything as long as he makes some profit of it, he is the least of Ferrengis :-), and becomes a bit despisable himself. I do not question Daniel competence. But his software is not free despite what's written, and as such, I would not accept the ambiguity nor the lie. What is best for me is fresh air, freedom, and pleasurable people. Lars gave me that, and I tried to return the favour. These are human values, and also where my values stand. For me at least, software is not an end in itself. -- François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard