Re: Display of inline messag/rfc822 (aka MIME forwards)

["François Pinard" <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca>]

Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud4.tuwien.ac.at> écrit:

> >>>>> On 04 Oct 1999 20:20:36 -0400
> >>>>> François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> said:

>  FP> These principles are fruitful for cases like in-lined
>  FP> message/rfc822. I'm including a picture of your demonstration,
>  FP> below. For me, it is absolutely clear that I'm looking at a
>  FP> quoted message.

> for me, it's not. It could be a colored message body (text/enriched,
> text/html).

Tss, tss...  You might not be playing honest, here.  For that matter,
whatever aspect you decide as being clear enough, one could generate some
enriched text that would look exactly like it.  It is extremely unlikely,
besides someone making practical jokes, that I would receive a message
that would just happen to look like a quoted message, in the picture you saw.

> Also, denying the problem for "the usual case", which is not so usual
> in my opinion (broken mailers abound), will not make it go away.

Quite agreed.  This is why Gnus is so tunable and adaptable.  Gnus should
model its usual behaviour after the most usual cases (yet within reason,
of course).  Tuning and customisation exist for the less usual cases.

>  FP> Maybe that Gnus could invent a mere `-- ' (rendered as a
>  FP> signature) when rendering a message/rfc822 in a MIME part, which
>  FP> has no recognised signature?

> That could be a solution.  But is it workable in most configurations?

Yes, in my feelings, but this proves nothing. :-) If it sounds reasonable
to most people, and to Lars as well, maybe he will adopt it?

>  FP> Here is the promised picture:

> FWIW, I don't consider sending messages > 500 lines without asking
> first good etiquette.

The ding list is for discussing about news and messages, by people
interested in such matters, participating in a development effort.
Asking permission before sending a message, given the time a poll would
take, and the discussions around it, would easily generate more volume
than the message itself, not to say how inefficient and counter-productive
the whole thing would be.  I do not feel I exaggerated in that situation,
at least in the context of the ding list.  I had something to show you,
and I merely used the methods Gnus gives me to do so, and the message
was aimed to people using similar tools.  My impression is that it is OK.
And a few Kbs are not inordinate.  We are far from speaking Megs, here :-).

Of course, I could establish an Internet connection, move files around onto
some FTP site, etc., but that's a lot of burden for a straight and simple
thing.  I would rather abstain than to go through that hassle.  In any case,
if there is a consensus I did wrong, just tell me, and I'll adjust.

-- 
François Pinard   http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard