From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/25668 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Pinard?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Moving articles destroys all marks Date: 05 Oct 1999 13:48:16 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <7t17ll78hpv.fsf@fly.srk.fer.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035163012 15226 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:16:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10062 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAB24502; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:51:18 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 05 Oct 1999 12:51:55 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04776 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:51:43 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from jupiter.rtsq.qc.ca (rtsq.grics.qc.ca [199.84.132.81]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09997 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from ariel.progiciels-bpi.ca by jupiter.rtsq.qc.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29474; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:49:31 -0400 Original-Received: from iro.umontreal.ca (uucp@localhost) by ariel.progiciels-bpi.ca (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI) via UUCP id NAA16629; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:52:44 -0700 Original-Received: from titan.progiciels-bpi.ca by icule.progiciels-bpi.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02495; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:48:25 -0400 Original-Received: from titan.progiciels-bpi.ca.progiciels-bpi.ca (unknown [199.84.132.86]) by titan.progiciels-bpi.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3770C50; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) X-Face: "b_m|CE6#'Q8fliQrwHl9K,]PA_o'*S~Dva{~b1n*)K*A(BIwQW.:LY?t4~xhYka_.LV?Qq `}X|71X0ea&H]9Dsk!`kxBXlG;q$mLfv_vtaHK_rHFKu]4'<*LWCyUe@ZcI6"*wB5M@[m François Pinard writes: > > My need is simple: to be sure I do not loose articles while moving > > them elsewhere. In my case, the automatic reading that comes with > > opening an article is plain unwelcome when the article has to be > > sorted elsewhere. My feeling is that this automatic reading should be > > undone, automatically as much as possible -- so I just cannot forget > > to do it. Whatever scheme that let me sort articles as I want, and > > is not error-prone, is acceptable to me. > I think it would be best (and sufficient) to redefine the keys to a > function which removes all marks first [...] then calls the normal > move function. This is what I did, as you might suspect, for the most common cases. > Hm. We want the unmarking to happen for the next N articles, or the > process-marked articles. And we don't want the process-mark to be > removed. Hm. How is this done? This is part of my problem! There are many cases I do not handle properly. I just did the most obvious or irritating cases, with some sweat and pain. Things are more nicely done, when by Lars. He knows Gnus pretty well :-). But I also think I'm no extraordinary user, and that my needs could be the needs of other users just as well, and worth sharing for this reason. Of course, there is no single solution that makes everyone happy at once in matters like Gnus, but the current tunability of Gnus lets me believe that many habits can co-exist. Maybe Lars listens? :-) -- François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard