From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46481 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Scott A Crosby Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Drafts feature-request/bug. Date: 10 Sep 2002 18:19:40 -0500 Organization: Rice University Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031700107 16923 127.0.0.1 (10 Sep 2002 23:21:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ouKH-0004Og-00 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 01:21:45 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17ouId-0003UU-00; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:20:03 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:20:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11006 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:20:28 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 28422 invoked by alias); 10 Sep 2002 23:19:45 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 28417 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 23:19:43 -0000 Original-Received: from cs.rice.edu (128.42.1.30) by gnus.org with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 23:19:43 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CEC4A9F8 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:19:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from bert.cs.rice.edu (bert.cs.rice.edu [128.42.3.146]) by cs.rice.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806E84A9ED for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:19:41 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by bert.cs.rice.edu (Postfix, from userid 14314) id 0A47037410A; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:19:40 -0500 (CDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46481 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46481 Hello... Thanks everyone to your help.. I'm still getting used to gnus... And using a meat axe where subtlety is enough.. Anyways, I've got a couple comments on drafts.. I like to use drafts a lot. Many times I'll sleep on an email and send it a day later. Or, I'll check a different message then go back to editing my current composition. I used to use PINE, and comparing it to gnus doesn't complement GNUS very much. First, can I make my drafts group be an ordinary group in the NNML backend, or must it be in the nndraft backend? Second, for NNML groups, if I move a message into an NNML group, I don't have to refresh by pushing 'g' in the group buffer for them to appear in their new summary buffers. I can go there directly and they appear. However, for drafts, if I suspend writing a moment 'C-c C-d', I must refresh the group buffer before I can continue see the message in the draft group, before I can continue editing that message. This is slow and annoying. Third, drafts seem to have a fixed date on them. Usually December 31. It'd be nice if they got updated with the date of the last edit to them. (IE, just before being edited or sent, update the date header.) >From reading the gnus-agent backend, apparently drafts does double-duty and also is used to hold the outgoing messages. Thats incompatible with using them to hold suspended messages. Is there any easy way of splitting it into the 2 groups? Thanks.... Scott