From: raman <raman@google.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: yamaoka@jpl.org, sxemacs-devel@sxemacs.org, ding@gnus.org,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving Gnus development to Emacs?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 08:33:25 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <p91bn973nhm.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3oad8rwkv.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:43:12 +0100")
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
This would be nice!> (Excuse the crossposting.)
>
> Back in the olden days, there were basically two reasons for doing the
> Gnus development outside of Emacs: 1) Emacs was releasing very slowly,
> and Gnus very fast, and 2) XEmacs was an important target for
> development.
>
> 1) is not true any more. And XEmacs isn't as vital as it used to be.
>
> And the SXEmacs peeps just started maintaining their own Gnus repo,
> which means that this might be a good opportunity to discontinue the
> git.gnus.org repo and just continue development on the Emacs trunk
> instead.
>
> Emacs has developed rapidly during the last few years, and the
> interfaces between Emacs, older versions of Emacs, and XEmacs are
> growing more divergent. This means that basically any change we do in
> Gnus fails to build on all build targets. And this, in turn, means that
> any change we do in Gnus is 2x as much work as it should be, and this
> leaves the code looking like an exercise in obfuscated programming.
> Sometimes. :-)
>
> So: I want to know how all y'all would feel if I closed git.gnus.org and
> started bringing the Gnus code base in the Emacs trunk up to modern
> Emacs standards. That would mean removing basically all compat code.
>
> No more `mm-string-as-unibyte'. No more `gnus-invisible-p'. Freedom!
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-30 11:43 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
[not found] ` <mailman.1827.1451475821.29210.sxemacs-devel-sxemacs.org@lists.sxemacs.org>
2015-12-30 14:33 ` Moving Gnus development to Emacs Steve Youngs
2015-12-30 15:15 ` Ivan Shmakov
2016-01-01 19:21 ` Steinar Bang
2016-01-02 3:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-30 16:33 ` raman [this message]
2015-12-30 19:05 ` Moving Gnus development to Emacs? Jay Belanger
2015-12-30 19:25 ` Nikolaus Rath
2015-12-31 17:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-31 18:35 ` Benjamin Slade
2015-12-30 18:44 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-31 0:46 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2015-12-31 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-31 9:18 ` Julien Danjou
2015-12-31 9:40 ` David Engster
2015-12-31 11:43 ` Michael Albinus
2015-12-31 12:29 ` CHENG Gao
2015-12-31 14:35 ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-12-31 14:52 ` CHENG Gao
2016-01-01 0:10 ` Xue Fuqiao
2016-01-01 7:02 ` CHENG Gao
2015-12-31 17:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2015-12-31 17:15 ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-01-02 17:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-02 20:31 ` Steinar Bang
2016-01-03 18:24 ` Bill Wohler
2016-01-04 0:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-04 1:05 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-04 3:47 ` Steve Youngs
2016-01-06 7:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-06 7:38 ` CHENG Gao
2016-01-06 8:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-01-25 15:07 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-01-28 12:45 ` Greg Troxel
2015-12-31 10:15 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-12-31 17:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-01 21:43 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2015-12-31 17:04 ` Uwe Brauer
2016-01-18 7:26 gnus-summary-refer-parent-article bug Dave Abrahams
2016-01-18 12:43 ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-18 15:47 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-01-19 0:25 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-19 15:59 ` Dave Abrahams
2016-01-19 22:10 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-20 11:04 ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-20 23:04 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-21 10:21 ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-22 2:37 ` Moving Gnus development to Emacs? Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-22 7:53 ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-22 9:45 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-22 11:28 ` Michael Albinus
2016-01-24 23:35 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-25 1:58 ` Mike Kupfer
2016-01-25 3:11 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-01-25 13:12 ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-22 12:25 ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-25 1:37 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2016-02-06 5:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-06 14:36 ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-02-06 14:38 ` Adam Sjøgren
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