From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/71401 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: More IMAP testing, please Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:13:42 +0200 Organization: not if I can help it Message-ID: References: <87ocbsuu51.fsf@andy.bu.edu> <87iq20ymof.fsf@rimspace.net> <87mxrb313t.fsf@rimspace.net> <87mxrb6nlv.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vd5x3nz1.fsf@rimspace.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285168472 28356 80.91.229.12 (22 Sep 2010 15:14:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:14:32 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M19774@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Sep 22 17:14:30 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyR1g-00007A-QL for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:14:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OyR1K-0002l7-8h; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:14:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OyR1I-0002ku-R5 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:14:04 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OyR1E-0002zE-RT for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:14:04 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OyR1E-0001KQ-00 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:14:00 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyR1C-0008K5-Uj for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:13:58 +0200 Original-Received: from lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net ([81.56.191.143]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:13:58 +0200 Original-Received: from rpluim by lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:13:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.5-b29 (cygwin32) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tGGwynLGe4xaG3oZYgJhqacjN64= X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:71401 Archived-At: Daniel Pittman writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> >>> Same as now: EXPUNGE the mailbox. This is normal IMAP behavior so I >>> don't think it will surprise users. >> >> It's normal to EXPUNGE the mailbox every time the user clicks "delete" >> on an article? > > Nope. Mostly, "normal" would actually be the "move to trash" case. > > OTOH, the IMAP design, *and* implementations, assume that EXPUNGE can > be expensive, and it is usually reserved for things like doing once, > not on every single delete operation. > Whatever it is that Lars has implemented up to now for B-DEL works fine for me (I think that's EXPUNGE every time), and I'm one of the aforementioned Exchange users. I have no complaints about the performance, although I haven't tried it in a group with more than 400 articles. If it ever turns out to be too expensive, I can always bug you to implement 'Mark deleted & expunge on group exit' ;) Regards Robert