From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75304 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Agent again Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:06:26 +0100 Organization: not if I can help it Message-ID: References: <9jhbe8h0t6.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292864813 29754 80.91.229.12 (20 Dec 2010 17:06:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:06:53 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23656@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Dec 20 18:06:49 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUjCD-0001bK-BL for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:06:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PUjCC-0000cB-DC; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:06:48 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PUjCB-0000bu-0S for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:06:47 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PUjCA-0002wH-Ar for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:06:46 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PUjC9-0004qQ-JW for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:06:45 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUjC8-0001ZT-5y for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:06:44 +0100 Original-Received: from 104.red-212-170-52.staticip.rima-tde.net ([212.170.52.104]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:06:44 +0100 Original-Received: from rpluim by 104.red-212-170-52.staticip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:06:44 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 104.red-212-170-52.staticip.rima-tde.net Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.5-b29 (cygwin32) Cancel-Lock: sha1:REGq/i/KFA4cNrbkzPFp/jvfX1g= X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75304 Archived-At: Richard Riley writes: > J s and "g" when plugged dont do the same thing for me. "J s" does > something, but "plugged" groups dont get a new article count. "g" does > get the new article count. What does, in the docs, > > "Fetch all articles and headers that are eligible for fetching." > > mean? I assumed all articles which pass the category predicate. > > I have a category "fun" with a predicate of "true". I am assuming this > means fetch all articles. The groups in question are added to this > category. Is that correct? > Yes > Or another way of asking, what are the conditions that mean J s and g > DONT do the same thing when plugged? As I understand it: g => query servers for info about any new articles that have arrived. For 'mail-like' backends this may end up retrieving mail, for nntp/nnimap it just updates article counts. J s => download articles based on currently available headers according to configured category predicates. Informally: g means 'do I have anything new to read', and J s is 'download stuff'. Robert