From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/71313 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: More IMAP testing, please Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:46:42 +0200 Organization: not if I can help it Message-ID: References: <87ocbsuu51.fsf@andy.bu.edu> <87iq20ymof.fsf@rimspace.net> <87mxrb313t.fsf@rimspace.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285091242 16160 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2010 17:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:47:22 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M19686@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Sep 21 19:47:19 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy6w3-00016g-Gx for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy6vq-0002xm-JG; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:47:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy6vp-0002xT-07 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:47:05 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy6vk-0004tZ-RB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:47:04 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Oy6vk-0008Sw-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:47:00 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oy6vj-0000xr-2Q for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:46:59 +0200 Original-Received: from lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net ([81.56.191.143]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:46:59 +0200 Original-Received: from rpluim by lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:46:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.5-b29 (cygwin32) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/7e/0TC3KUOyZvajleEyS5L8lYs= X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:71313 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Robert Pluim writes: > >> I think a typical Gnus user would expect the article to disappear, >> dammit. As would a non-typical one. > > Yes. But it's not that simple. :-) > > For servers that have the UIDPLUS capability, `B DEL' should (and does, > I think?) first mark the message as deleted, and then expunge the > message in question. > I don't think mine has UIDPLUS, then. Which log buffer do I need to look at to figure it out? > If the server doesn't have UIDPLUS, the only way to make messages go > totally away is to do an EXPUNGE on the mailbox. That will make all > messages that are marked as \Deleted disappear forever. > > So what should the default behaviour on non-UIDPLUS servers be? I vote for expunge-on-exit, because that matches my expectations, but I would be fine with expunge-manually as default, as long as there was a configuration variable or a hook I could use to get expunge-on-exit. Regards Robert