gnus-ml.el obsolete ?

[Xavier MAILLARD <zedek@gnu-rox.org>]

I am aware of Kai's speech but I can't figure out in what way gnus-ml is
really usefull for.

In fact to take advantage of this module (and so of the RFC2369), we
*MUST* edit an article to feed the gnus-ml functions.

I mean we *CAN'T* take advantage of the features in the summary mode
because gnus-ml is scanning the RFC2369 'List-*' headers. 

So if I want to get help about a list (taking advantage of List-Help RFC
header), I get only 2 choices :
 1) Enter an article to get the different headers
 2) Do a big hack to have them (headers) in the sum.

I think those 2 choices are bad because to unsubscribe from a ML I
generally don't want to enter an old article to achieve the task. And
then I don't think that doing some nasty hacks in my .gnus file is a
good solution.

What are your opinions about this?

I'm scared I will (again) make some people nervous but I want to know
how people handle this.

I know one could (still) be happy with the way it works for instance,
but I really don't :)

Lastly, this post is not intented to be in any opposition with gnus
people (whose work is really big and great) but as I love gnus I want to
try to contribute and try to improve/understand/whatever it.

Cheers,

zeDek