From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52230 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [OT] Of the meaning of GNUS Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 17:41:21 +0200 Organization: GNU Rox ! Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <65orpvqy.fsf@asfast.com> <84n0i2etnm.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> Reply-To: ding@gnus.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052062831 26137 80.91.224.249 (4 May 2003 15:40:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 15:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M773@lists.math.uh.edu Sun May 04 17:40:25 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19CLb6-0006n9-00 for ; Sun, 04 May 2003 17:40:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CLcJ-0006Pi-00; Sun, 04 May 2003 10:41:31 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CLcF-0006Pd-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 04 May 2003 10:41:27 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 57043 invoked by alias); 4 May 2003 15:41:26 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 57038 invoked from network); 4 May 2003 15:41:26 -0000 Original-Received: from rms.gnu-rox.org (HELO smtp.gnu-rox.org) (foobar@213.41.134.247) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 4 May 2003 15:41:26 -0000 Original-Received: from fxgs.gnu-rox.org.gnu-rox.org (unknown [10.0.0.10]) by smtp.gnu-rox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FE23E02A; Sun, 4 May 2003 17:41:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Lloyd Zusman Adress: zedek@gnu-rox.org X-URL: http://www.gnusfr.org X-Home-Page: http://www.gnu-rox.org X-Gpg-Key-ID: 4CE51D71 X-Gpg-Fingerprint: 298B 37DE E2EF C030 5D64 6CFF C3DA E70E 4CE5 1D71 X-Gpg-Affinity: Will accept encrypted message for GNUpg X-Disclaimer: Fourty Two X-Accept-Language: en, fr Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: 63TbQAY?C>dKDtNNr7 (Lloyd Zusman's message of "Sun, 04 May 2003 10:20:46 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52230 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52230 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 4 mai 2003, Lloyd Zusman outgrape: > kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: >=20=20 > > Lloyd Zusman writes: > >=20=20 > > > In English, the word "gnu" (meaning "wildebeest") can be > > > pronounced with a silent "g", so that it sounds exactly the same > > > as "new". Therefore, using that convention, "Gnus" would be > > > pronounced like "news". Since Gnus was originally created as a > > > usenet newsreader, that's a very appropriate name. > >=20=20 > > I understand that the G is not silent, says Lars. >=20=20 > Check "gnu" in an English dictionary. I looked in several, and in > all cases, the "g" is silent. The first pronunciation is "noo", and > the second one is "nyoo" (as if the "gn" were reversed to "ng", and > the "g" turned into a glide). >=20=20 > Of course, this is in reference to the wildebeest, not the Free > Software Foundation's acronym. >=20=20 > And while Lars is certainly an authority on the pronunciation of > "Gnus", I recall when it first came out (even before Umeda Masanobu > took over its development), and back then, the pronunciation of "Gnu" > seemed to alternate pretty much on a 50-50 basis between a silent and > a hard "g" (those were the days when the only gnu thing out there was > gnu emacs). >=20=20 > I believe that the "official" pronunciation of the FSF acronym had a > hard "g", but that didn't stop thousands of people from pronouncing > that "g" silently back then. >=20=20 > But the original question had to do with the reason for the trailing > "s" in the name "Gnus". And as we've discussed, it was to make the > word a rhyme (or a homonym, if you subscribe to the > silent-g-Gnu-acronym theory) for the word "news". Thanx Mr Cappelo :) zeDek --=20 http://www.gnusfr.org -- French Gnus user site Anti-war disclaimer: "Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity" --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+tTShw9rnDkzlHXERAsQgAJwLvW43FH/KmLfwc86zvzzs1eYK3wCfaHw5 jsOLRmcTMFCK7pR5IRY2gLA= =PFKI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--