[Q]: What can cause a nntp server closure ?

[Q]: What can cause a nntp server closure ?

[Xavier Maillard]

Hello,

As it seems nobody has answered to my previous message concerning
a problem when trying to display an article, I try again here to
see if I can fix something in my configuration.

SO the question is simple: what can cause this:

,----
| Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Server closed connection")
|   signal(error ("Server closed connection"))
|   error("Server closed connection")
|   apply(error "Server closed connection")
|   nntp-report("Server closed connection")
|   nntp-accept-process-output(nil)
|   byte-code("\b	=ƒ%
|   gnus-async-wait-for-article(15742)
|   gnus-async-request-fetched-article("nntp+gnu-rox.org:gnus.ding" 15742 #<buffer *Article*>)
|   gnus-request-article-this-buffer(15742 "nntp+gnu-rox.org:gnus.ding")
|   gnus-article-prepare(15742 nil)
|   gnus-summary-display-article(15742 nil)
|   gnus-summary-select-article(nil nil pseudo)
|   gnus-summary-scroll-up(1)
|   call-interactively(gnus-summary-scroll-up)
`----

I really don't see what in my configuration could be tweaked to
fix this problem.

Thank you for your answer.
-- 
Hito no kokoro wa kawareru mono

[IGNORE] (was: [Q]: What can cause a nntp server closure ?)

[Xavier Maillard]

On 13 oct 2004, Xavier Maillard wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> As it seems nobody has answered to my previous message
> concerning a problem when trying to display an article, I try
> again here to see if I can fix something in my configuration.
> 
> SO the question is simple: what can cause this:

Well forget about this question I didn't see I got an answer
before.

Oh BTW, I no longer can cancel my posts (I am asking a password,
which of course I don't know). I used to cancel articles without
this.

Regards.
-- 
"sometimes i feel like we're making emacs better and better because we don't 
 know what to do with emacs once it is finished."

    -- AlexSchroeder on #emacs @OPN

password for cancel (was: [IGNORE])

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Oct 13 2004, Xavier Maillard wrote:

> Oh BTW, I no longer can cancel my posts (I am asking a password,
> which of course I don't know). I used to cancel articles without
> this.

Maybe you accidentally removed the canlock stuff from your init files?
See (info "(message)Canceling News").

(Canceling articles on this newsgroup doesn't make sense anyhow,
because it's gated to the mailing list and mail doesn't support cancel
anyhow.)

Bye, Reiner.
-- 
       ,,,
      (o o)
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Re: password for cancel (was: [IGNORE])

[Xavier Maillard]

On 13 oct 2004, Reiner Steib wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 13 2004, Xavier Maillard wrote:
> 
> > Oh BTW, I no longer can cancel my posts (I am asking a
> > password, which of course I don't know). I used to cancel
> > articles without this.
> 
> Maybe you accidentally removed the canlock stuff from your init
> files? See (info "(message)Canceling News").

Yeah. My customize file was, well, crappy. I removed it and all
is back again now.
 
> (Canceling articles on this newsgroup doesn't make sense
> anyhow, because it's gated to the mailing list and mail doesn't
> support cancel anyhow.)

Yeah, you right. Hard to think this group is also a mailing-list.

Thank you.
-- 
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Re: password for cancel

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> In <plop87hdoyll8o.fsf@gnu-rox.org> Xavier Maillard wrote:

> On 13 oct 2004, Reiner Steib wrote:

> Yeah. My customize file was, well, crappy. I removed it and all
> is back again now.

I think those who often write Lisp codes perhaps had better set
a password explicitly.

(setq canlock-password "dingnusdingnusdingnusdingnusdingnusding"
      canlock-password-for-verify canlock-password)

Re: password for cancel

[Reiner Steib]

On Thu, Oct 14 2004, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

> I think those who often write Lisp codes perhaps had better set
> a password explicitly.
>
> (setq canlock-password "dingnusdingnusdingnusdingnusdingnusding"
>       canlock-password-for-verify canlock-password)

Agreed, I also do it in this way.  Maybe we should include such an
example in (info "(message)Canceling News")?

Bye, Reiner.
-- 
       ,,,
      (o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo---  |  PGP key available  |  http://rsteib.home.pages.de/

Re: password for cancel

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> In <v9r7o1ofze.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 14 2004, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

>> I think those who often write Lisp codes perhaps had better set
>> a password explicitly.
>>
>> (setq canlock-password "dingnusdingnusdingnusdingnusdingnusding"
>>       canlock-password-for-verify canlock-password)

> Agreed, I also do it in this way.  Maybe we should include such an
> example in (info "(message)Canceling News")?

That's a good idea.  Doesn't the following English sentence look
funny?

  If you yourself want to manage a password, you can put
  something like the following in your @file{~/.gnus.el} file:

In addition, is there any smart password example? ;-)

Re: password for cancel

[Xavier Maillard]

On 14 oct 2004, Reiner Steib wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 14 2004, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
> 
> > I think those who often write Lisp codes perhaps had better
> > set a password explicitly.
> > 
> > (setq canlock-password
> > "dingnusdingnusdingnusdingnusdingnusding"
> > canlock-password-for-verify canlock-password)
> 
> Agreed, I also do it in this way. Maybe we should include such
> an example in (info "(message)Canceling News")?

Indeed, that would be interesting. I personnaly switched to this
situation but it means I will not be able to cancle/supersede my
old posting any longer, right ?

Update: tried it and effectively, I am not able anymore for my
*old* posts.

No problem though.
-- 
Hito no kokoro wa kawareru mono

Re: password for cancel

[Cheng Gao]

Maybe like this:

(sha1 "mypassword") C-x C-e

then copy and paste the generated string, and use it as canlock password.

-- 
这去者，不能见他的脸，背影模糊。

Re: password for cancel

[Reiner Steib]

[ Resending this message.  The first one didn't make it to the list,
  it seems.  At least it's not on Gmane.  Sorry for any duplicates. ]

On Thu, Oct 14 2004, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

>>>>>> In <v9r7o1ofze.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:
[...]
>> Agreed, I also do it in this way.  Maybe we should include such an
>> example in (info "(message)Canceling News")?
>
> That's a good idea.  Doesn't the following English sentence look
> funny?
>
>   If you yourself want to manage a password, you can put
|   If you want to manage a password yourself, you can put

> In addition, is there any smart password example? ;-)

Typical examples in `gnus.texi' are "secret" and "geheimnis".  The
latter is German, but it is also know in other parts of the world,
isn't it?

Bye, Reiner.
-- 
       ,,,
      (o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo---  |  PGP key available  |  http://rsteib.home.pages.de/

Re: password for cancel

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> In <v9ekjzq379.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Reiner Steib wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 14 2004, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

>> That's a good idea.  Doesn't the following English sentence look
>> funny?
>>
>>   If you yourself want to manage a password, you can put
>|   If you want to manage a password yourself, you can put

I'm using Japanese in my head to think things and directly
translating them often causes funny English. ;-)

>> In addition, is there any smart password example? ;-)

> Typical examples in `gnus.texi' are "secret" and "geheimnis".  The
> latter is German, but it is also know in other parts of the world,
> isn't it?

No person will understand them as different meanings.  I adopted
the later one.  Thank you.