[Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Xavier Maillard]

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Hello,

I am not a charset/encoding expert at all and I would like to
know wether this:


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Re: [Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Frank Schmitt]

Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:

> I am not a charset/encoding expert at all and I would like to
> know wether this:
>
>   (add-to-list 'mm-charset-synonym-alist
> 	       '(iso-8859-15 . iso-8859-1)))
>
> Is a safe practice or not ? Is there any risk ?

Why do you want to do this? -15 and -1 are similar but not the same. -1
doesn't know the € while -15 does and there are other
differences. Compare http://www.kostis.net/charsets/iso8859.1.htm with
http://www.kostis.net/charsets/iso8859.15.htm

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Re: [Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Reiner Steib]

On Mon, Oct 11 2004, Xavier Maillard wrote:

> I am not a charset/encoding expert at all and I would like to
> know wether this:
>   (add-to-list 'mm-charset-synonym-alist
> 	       '(iso-8859-15 . iso-8859-1)))
>
> Is a safe practice or not ? Is there any risk ?

It's simply incorrect.  Especially for French the oe/OE ligatures
(œ/Œ) are relevant.  See e.g.
<URL:http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/latin9.html>.

BTW, hiding text in `application/emacs-lisp' attachment is also not a
good idea.

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Re: [Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Matthieu Moy]

Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:

> Hello,

Salut,

>   (add-to-list 'mm-charset-synonym-alist
> 	       '(iso-8859-15 . iso-8859-1)))

Isn't that the best way to make sure you will _always_ have problems
with the euro symbol? (A message with the euro symbol, encoded in
iso-8859-15, will be displayed in iso-8859-1, and you'll get the ¤
symbol instead)

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Re: [Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Xavier Maillard]

On 11 oct 2004, Frank Schmitt wrote:

> Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
> 
> > I am not a charset/encoding expert at all and I would like to
> > know wether this:
> > 
> > (add-to-list 'mm-charset-synonym-alist
> > 	       '(iso-8859-15 . iso-8859-1)))
> > 
> > Is a safe practice or not ? Is there any risk ?
> 
> Why do you want to do this? -15 and -1 are similar but not the

Was just to try to "unify" each other but you are right, there
are differences between them.

> same. -1 doesn't know the € while -15 does and there are other
> differences. Compare
> http://www.kostis.net/charsets/iso8859.1.htm with
> http://www.kostis.net/charsets/iso8859.15.htm

Thank you.
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Re: [Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Xavier Maillard]

On 11 oct 2004, Matthieu Moy wrote:

> Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
> 
> > Hello,
> 
> Salut,
> 
> > (add-to-list 'mm-charset-synonym-alist
> > 	       '(iso-8859-15 . iso-8859-1)))
> 
> Isn't that the best way to make sure you will _always_ have
> problems with the euro symbol? (A message with the euro symbol,
> encoded in iso-8859-15, will be displayed in iso-8859-1, and
> you'll get the ¤ symbol instead)

Yes. I didn't think of this problem since I always type 'EUR'.

I will remove that.

Thank you.
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Re: [Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Xavier Maillard]

On 11 oct 2004, Reiner Steib wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 11 2004, Xavier Maillard wrote:
> 
> > I am not a charset/encoding expert at all and I would like to
> > know wether this:
> > (add-to-list 'mm-charset-synonym-alist
> > 	       '(iso-8859-15 . iso-8859-1)))
> > 
> > Is a safe practice or not ? Is there any risk ?
> 
> It's simply incorrect. Especially for French the oe/OE
> ligatures (œ/Œ) are relevant. See e.g.
> <URL:http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/latin9.html>.

Ah yeah, I see. Thank you.
 
> BTW, hiding text in `application/emacs-lisp' attachment is also
> not a good idea.

What do you mean ?

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Re: [Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Reiner Steib]

On Mon, Oct 11 2004, Xavier Maillard wrote:

> On 11 oct 2004, Reiner Steib wrote:
[...]
>> BTW, hiding text in `application/emacs-lisp' attachment is also
>> not a good idea.
>
> What do you mean ?

Everything starting from "add-to-list" is in the
application/emacs-lisp part, including "Is a safe practice ...".
Despite of "Content-Disposition: inline", it might be displayed as
attachment depending on the Client or the setting (e.g. buttonized in
Gnus).

Some clients like kmail even display a second and more text/plain
parts as attachments.  When sending attachments to non-Gnus users, I
usually put the attachments at the bottom of the message.

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: [Q]: Is this a safe practice ?

[Xavier Maillard]

On 11 oct 2004, Reiner Steib wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 11 2004, Xavier Maillard wrote:
> 
> > On 11 oct 2004, Reiner Steib wrote:
> [...]
> > > BTW, hiding text in `application/emacs-lisp' attachment is
> > > also not a good idea.
> > 
> > What do you mean ?
> 
> Everything starting from "add-to-list" is in the
> application/emacs-lisp part, including "Is a safe practice
> ...". Despite of "Content-Disposition: inline", it might be
> displayed as attachment depending on the Client or the setting
> (e.g. buttonized in Gnus).
> 
> Some clients like kmail even display a second and more
> text/plain parts as attachments. When sending attachments to
> non-Gnus users, I usually put the attachments at the bottom of
> the message.

Oh ok this is something new to me and I am still learning :/

Thank you.
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