Re: Need help with spam stuff.

[Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org>]

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On 15 jui 2003, Ted Zlatanov told this:

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, zedek@gnu-rox.org wrote:
> >  I am trying to write a small document onto the french Gnus user
> >  site [1] about configuring Gnus to fight spam using Ted's work.
> >  
> >  As I am not a real expert at this, I would expect your help ;)
>  
>  Feel free to ask questions, I'll answer as best I can.

I was almost sure you would answer to that thread :) \o/
  
> >  What are according to your current settings the proper way to
> >  configure Gnus for that ? What's the best approach to get, to have
> >  it working perfectly ? What spam filter to use and how ?
>  
>  spam.el tries to avoid these decisions.  I have seen users who want
>  everything automatic, other users want only incoming mail splitting,
>  others want only marked spam/ham transfer at summary exit time.  Each
>  user seems to like something different for a spam filter, too (since
>  you can combine filters, the total number of possibilities is very
>  large).

This won't help to document the basis of the setting then ;)
  
>  In terms of "most popular" spam filter, SpamAssassin and Bogofilter
>  seem to be very popular.  Both are supported by spam.el, one by
>  spam-use-regex-headers (which is configured for SpamAssassin by

Is this related to the spamassassin header tags ?

[...]
  
> >  I have my own ideas on the subject as I have configured mine, but I
> >  need more feedbacks from other people to be as accurate as
> >  possible. What did people use : hand writing or customize stuff ?
> >  Why one way and not the other ?
>  
>  The manual section about spam.el gives very few ELisp examples for
>  these two reasons: one, it's hard to give an example when people
>  almost certainly will want something different from everyone else for
>  filtering spam; two, Customize is much better as a common
>  customization interface.  Group and topic parameters are the other
>  configuration piece, and that's pretty simple as well if done through
>  the proper interface in Gnus (`G c').

Agree with that even if I am one of this hand-writtend maniac :) The
more I advance in writing the howto, the harder it is for me to take
the good decision. Spam is something more difficult I have imagined.

>  
>  I recommend Customize all the way, it's much harder to get it wrong.

Sure but as I am totally n00b at this I won't recommend that or at
least won't give bad explanation on that. I have never used any
Customize things until now so ... :)

>  I had at least one person say they prefer hand-written customization,

You now have 2 :)

>  and that's fine with me as long as I don't get bug reports because
>  users misconfigured things.  

Agree.
  
>  My personal spam-related settings as of now:
>  
>  (setq spam-use-bbdb t spam-use-regex-headers t ; does X-Spam-Flag by
>  default spam-use-blackholes (stringp (executable-find "dig"))
>  spam-blackhole-good-server-regex "134.174" ;; my local subnet
>  gnus-spam-newsgroup-contents '(("spam"
>  gnus-group-spam-classification-spam)) spam-mark-only-unseen-as-spam t
>  ;; split incoming mail according to the following rules.
>  nnmail-split-methods 'nnmail-split-fancy nnmail-split-fancy '(| (:
>  gnus-registry-split-fancy-with-parent)
>  
>  ;; check SpamAssassin early
>  		      (: spam-split 'spam-use-regex-headers)
>  
>  ;; many irrelevant intermediate rules omitted
>  
>  		      (: spam-split)
>  
>  		      ;; default mailbox
>  		      "mail"))

Wow I may have missed some options. /me needs to read the documentation
one more time.
  
>  Ted

zeDek
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