From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53461 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Need help with spam stuff. Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:40:05 +0200 Organization: GNU Rox ! Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4nhe5n4lur.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> Reply-To: ding@gnus.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1058305458 30806 80.91.224.249 (15 Jul 2003 21:44:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2006@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jul 15 23:44:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19cXai-00080H-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:44:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19cXbR-0004PD-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:44:53 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19cXbM-0004P8-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:44:48 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 12677 invoked by alias); 15 Jul 2003 21:44:48 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 12672 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 21:44:47 -0000 Original-Received: from rms.gnu-rox.org (HELO smtp.gnu-rox.org) (213.41.134.247) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2003 21:44:47 -0000 Original-Received: from fxgs.gnu-rox.org.gnu-rox.org (fxgs.gnu-rox.org [10.0.0.10]) by smtp.gnu-rox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645563E15D for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:44:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Adress: zedek@gnu-rox.org X-URL: http://www.gnusfr.org X-Home-Page: http://www.gnu-rox.org X-Gpg-Key-ID: 4CE51D71 X-Gpg-Fingerprint: 298B 37DE E2EF C030 5D64 6CFF C3DA E70E 4CE5 1D71 X-Gpg-Affinity: Will accept encrypted message for GNUpg X-Disclaimer: Fourty Two X-Accept-Language: en, fr Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: 63TbQAY?C>dKDtNNr7 (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:43:24 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53461 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53461 --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15 jui 2003, Ted Zlatanov told this: On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, zedek@gnu-rox.org wrote: > > I am trying to write a small document onto the french Gnus user > > site [1] about configuring Gnus to fight spam using Ted's work. > >=20=20 > > As I am not a real expert at this, I would expect your help ;) >=20=20 > Feel free to ask questions, I'll answer as best I can. I was almost sure you would answer to that thread :) \o/ =20=20 > > What are according to your current settings the proper way to > > configure Gnus for that ? What's the best approach to get, to have > > it working perfectly ? What spam filter to use and how ? >=20=20 > spam.el tries to avoid these decisions. I have seen users who want > everything automatic, other users want only incoming mail splitting, > others want only marked spam/ham transfer at summary exit time. Each > user seems to like something different for a spam filter, too (since > you can combine filters, the total number of possibilities is very > large). This won't help to document the basis of the setting then ;) =20=20 > In terms of "most popular" spam filter, SpamAssassin and Bogofilter > seem to be very popular. Both are supported by spam.el, one by > spam-use-regex-headers (which is configured for SpamAssassin by Is this related to the spamassassin header tags ? [...] =20=20 > > I have my own ideas on the subject as I have configured mine, but I > > need more feedbacks from other people to be as accurate as > > possible. What did people use : hand writing or customize stuff ? > > Why one way and not the other ? >=20=20 > The manual section about spam.el gives very few ELisp examples for > these two reasons: one, it's hard to give an example when people > almost certainly will want something different from everyone else for > filtering spam; two, Customize is much better as a common > customization interface. Group and topic parameters are the other > configuration piece, and that's pretty simple as well if done through > the proper interface in Gnus (`G c'). Agree with that even if I am one of this hand-writtend maniac :) The more I advance in writing the howto, the harder it is for me to take the good decision. Spam is something more difficult I have imagined. >=20=20 > I recommend Customize all the way, it's much harder to get it wrong. Sure but as I am totally n00b at this I won't recommend that or at least won't give bad explanation on that. I have never used any Customize things until now so ... :) > I had at least one person say they prefer hand-written customization, You now have 2 :) > and that's fine with me as long as I don't get bug reports because > users misconfigured things.=20=20 Agree. =20=20 > My personal spam-related settings as of now: >=20=20 > (setq spam-use-bbdb t spam-use-regex-headers t ; does X-Spam-Flag by > default spam-use-blackholes (stringp (executable-find "dig")) > spam-blackhole-good-server-regex "134.174" ;; my local subnet > gnus-spam-newsgroup-contents '(("spam" > gnus-group-spam-classification-spam)) spam-mark-only-unseen-as-spam t > ;; split incoming mail according to the following rules. > nnmail-split-methods 'nnmail-split-fancy nnmail-split-fancy '(| (: > gnus-registry-split-fancy-with-parent) >=20=20 > ;; check SpamAssassin early > (: spam-split 'spam-use-regex-headers) >=20=20 > ;; many irrelevant intermediate rules omitted >=20=20 > (: spam-split) >=20=20 > ;; default mailbox > "mail")) Wow I may have missed some options. /me needs to read the documentation one more time. =20=20 > Ted zeDek --=20 http://www.gnusfr.org -- French Gnus user site Anti-war disclaimer: "Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity" --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/FHS3w9rnDkzlHXERAjltAJ4gGASdsWO9ZcQ8oLQ41rx2of8Q3ACgl4/B 6ffCnFnvi1DrRlJWIwc0WIQ= =xjER -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--