Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Xavier Maillard]

Hello,

Well I had already asked for this some time ago but since I
couldn't get it working, I am trying again.

So the problem is quite simple:

1. I have USENET group susceptible to have lisp in the article
   body I would like to render using emacs-lisp/lisp mode
   automatically
2. I have friends of mine with whoom I often exchange Lisp
   snippets and so I would like to have the lisp snippet rendered
   differently from the rest of the article

So how can I do that ? Someone gave me some code which should
have done this, but it didn't work for me.

Should the lisp part of a message be "formatted" in a specific
way (section delimiter to show where the code begins and where it
ends) ? Is this really possible to have article/message buffer
rendered differently (ie. with more than the default text-mode) ?

Help grantly appreciated on this topic.

And sorry for the guy that gave me the code, if he could explain
how to use it and how to test it ... :/

Thank you very much
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Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Jesper Harder]

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Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:

> 2. I have friends of mine with whoom I often exchange Lisp
>    snippets and so I would like to have the lisp snippet rendered
>    differently from the rest of the article

This should be easy.  Just use inline attachments:


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i.e.

<#part type="application/emacs-lisp" disposition=inline>
(defun foo (x)
  (+ 2 x))
<#part type="text/plain" disposition=inline>

-- 
Jesper Harder                                <http://purl.org/harder/>

Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Xavier Maillard]

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On  1 oct 2004, Jesper Harder wrote:

> Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
> 
> > 2. I have friends of mine with whoom I often exchange Lisp
> > snippets and so I would like to have the lisp snippet
> > rendered differently from the rest of the article
> 
> This should be easy.  Just use inline attachments:
> 
> (defun foo (x)
> (+ 2 x))
> i.e.
> 
> 

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Just didn't work here :(

How can I configure Gnus to force it to "render" the inline
part ?

Thank you
-- 
"sometimes i feel like we're making emacs better and better because we don't 
 know what to do with emacs once it is finished."

    -- AlexSchroeder on #emacs @OPN

Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Jesper Harder]

Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:

> On  1 oct 2004, Jesper Harder wrote:
>
>> This should be easy.  Just use inline attachments:
>
> Just didn't work here :(
>
> How can I configure Gnus to force it to "render" the inline part ?

It works by default.  You must have included some customization which
disables it.

-- 
Jesper Harder                                <http://purl.org/harder/>

Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Xavier Maillard]

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On  1 oct 2004, Jesper Harder wrote:

> Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
> 
> > 2. I have friends of mine with whoom I often exchange Lisp
> > snippets and so I would like to have the lisp snippet
> > rendered differently from the rest of the article
> 
> This should be easy.  Just use inline attachments:
> 
> (defun foo (x)
> (+ 2 x))
> i.e.
> 
> 

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Well I searched and found something about inlined content.

From what I see, all is correct:

,----[ C-h v mm-inlined-types RET ]
| mm-inlined-types's value is 
| ("application/msword" "image/.*" "text/.*" "message/delivery-status" "message/rfc822" "message/partial" "message/external-body" "application/emacs-lisp" "application/x-emacs-lisp" "application/pgp-signature" "application/x-pkcs7-signature" "application/pkcs7-signature" "application/x-pkcs7-mime" "application/pkcs7-mime")
| 
| 
| List of media types that are to be displayed inline.
| See also `mm-inline-media-tests', which says how to display a media
| type inline.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
| 
| Defined in `mm-decode'.
| 
| [back]
`----

and 

,----[ C-h v mm-inline-media-tests RET ]
| mm-inline-media-tests's value is shown below.
| 
| Alist of media types/tests saying whether types can be displayed inline.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
| 
| Defined in `mm-decode'.
| 
| Value:
| (("application/msword"
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-inline-render-with-stdin handle nil "antiword" "-"))
|   identity)
|  ("image/p?jpeg" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'jpeg handle)))
|  ("image/png" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'png handle)))
|  ("image/gif" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'gif handle)))
|  ("image/tiff" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'tiff handle)))
|  ("image/xbm" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xbm handle)))
|  ("image/x-xbitmap" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xbm handle)))
|  ("image/xpm" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xpm handle)))
|  ("image/x-xpixmap" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xpm handle)))
|  ("image/bmp" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'bmp handle)))
|  ("image/x-portable-bitmap" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'pbm handle)))
|  ("text/plain" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("text/enriched" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("text/richtext" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("text/x-patch" mm-display-patch-inline
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (locate-library "diff-mode")))
|  ("application/emacs-lisp" mm-display-elisp-inline identity)
|  ("application/x-emacs-lisp" mm-display-elisp-inline identity)
|  ("text/dns" mm-display-dns-inline identity)
|  ("text/html" mm-inline-text-html
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (or mm-inline-text-html-renderer mm-text-html-renderer)))
|  ("text/x-vcard" mm-inline-text-vcard
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (or
|      (featurep 'vcard)
|      (locate-library "vcard"))))
|  ("message/delivery-status" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("message/rfc822" mm-inline-message identity)
|  ("message/partial" mm-inline-partial identity)
|  ("message/external-body" mm-inline-external-body identity)
|  ("text/.*" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("audio/wav" mm-inline-audio
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (and
|      (or
|       (featurep 'nas-sound)
|       (featurep 'native-sound))
|      (device-sound-enabled-p))))
|  ("audio/au" mm-inline-audio
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (and
|      (or
|       (featurep 'nas-sound)
|       (featurep 'native-sound))
|      (device-sound-enabled-p))))
|  ("application/pgp-signature" ignore identity)
|  ("application/x-pkcs7-signature" ignore identity)
|  ("application/pkcs7-signature" ignore identity)
|  ("application/x-pkcs7-mime" ignore identity)
|  ("application/pkcs7-mime" ignore identity)
|  ("multipart/alternative" ignore identity)
|  ("multipart/mixed" ignore identity)
|  ("multipart/related" ignore identity)
|  ("audio/.*" ignore ignore)
|  ("image/.*" ignore ignore)
|  (".*" mm-inline-text mm-readable-p))
| 
| [back]
`----

All is ok, isn't it ?

P.S: sorry for this crap
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Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Jesper Harder]

Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:

> On  1 oct 2004, Jesper Harder wrote:
>
>> This should be easy.  Just use inline attachments:
>
> All is ok, isn't it ?

Why don't you just try with a clean ~/.gnus ?  If that works, then
you'll know for certain that one of your settings is wrong.

-- 
Jesper Harder                                <http://purl.org/harder/>

Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Xavier Maillard]

Jesper Harder <harder <at> ifa.au.dk> writes: 
 
>  
> Xavier Maillard <zedek <at> gnu-rox.org> writes: 
>  
> > On  1 oct 2004, Jesper Harder wrote: 
> > 
> >> This should be easy.  Just use inline attachments: 
> > 
> > All is ok, isn't it ? 
>  
> Why don't you just try with a clean ~/.gnus ?  If that works, then 
> you'll know for certain that one of your settings is wrong. 
>  
 
 
I just try removing my .gnus file and it doesn't work more :/ 
 
It seems it come from my .emacs but I can't isolate the incrimined part. Could 
you, please, give me informations on what I should check ?? 
 
What can prevent from rendering such MIME object ? 
 
I think about emacs-lisp mode customization but I really can't find it. All I 
know, is, if I comment almost 99% of my .emacs file, it seems to render. 
 
Any hint appreciated. 
 
Xavier 

Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

>>>>> In <loom.20041003T162131-939@post.gmane.org> Xavier Maillard wrote:

> I think about emacs-lisp mode customization but I really can't find
> it. All I know, is, if I comment almost 99% of my .emacs file, it
> seems to render.

Isn't it about font-lock'ing that you are talking?  If so, I
guess you are using

(add-hook 'emacs-lisp-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock)

instead of

(global-font-lock-mode 1)

In that case, font-lock is turned on by the hook and then turned
off by jit-lock-refontify by way of mm-display-inline-fontify.

It doesn't seem easy to fix the problem by Gnus and I think it
is proper to recommend Emacs users to use global-font-lock-mode
and also the font-lock-global-modes variable.

[SOLVED] (was: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?)

[Xavier Maillard]

On  5 oct 2004, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

> > > > > > In <loom.20041003T162131-939@post.gmane.org> Xavier Maillard wrote:
> 
> > I think about emacs-lisp mode customization but I really
> > can't find it. All I know, is, if I comment almost 99% of my
> > .emacs file, it seems to render.
> 
> Isn't it about font-lock'ing that you are talking?  If so, I
> guess you are using
> 
> (add-hook 'emacs-lisp-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock)
> 
> instead of
> 
> (global-font-lock-mode 1)

No. My .emacs take care of this. And as I posted in another
message, the problem occured when I activated a code snippet
which was using zmacs-region.
 
Regards.
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Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Xavier Maillard]

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On  1 oct 2004, Jesper Harder wrote:

> Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
> 
> > 2. I have friends of mine with whoom I often exchange Lisp
> > snippets and so I would like to have the lisp snippet
> > rendered differently from the rest of the article
> 
> This should be easy.  Just use inline attachments:
> 
> (defun foo (x)
> (+ 2 x))
> i.e.
> 
> 

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Well I try to see if, at least, Gnus was "aware" of the inlined
lisp part.

It seems it is (M-x debug-on-entry RET mm-display-elisp-inline
RET):

,----
| 
| Debugger entered--returning value: (lambda nil (let (buffer-read-only) (delete-region #<marker at 2464 in *Article*> #<marker at 2490 in *Article*>)))
|   mm-display-elisp-inline((#<buffer  *mm*<3>> ("application/emacs-lisp") nil (lambda nil (let ... ...)) ("inline") nil nil nil))
|   mm-display-inline((#<buffer  *mm*<3>> ("application/emacs-lisp") nil (lambda nil (let ... ...)) ("inline") nil nil nil))
|   mm-display-part((#<buffer  *mm*<3>> ("application/emacs-lisp") nil (lambda nil (let ... ...)) ("inline") nil nil nil) t)
|   byte-code("\bƒ\x17\0Æ\b‰A\x10@	\"ƒ\0\0ÇÀÈ\"ˆ‚\0\0É\n!?…1\0Ê\n8?†1\0Ê\n8@Ëš†1\0Ì\n!‰\x13ƒS\0Í\n!ƒS\0Î\n!ƒH\0Ï\n!„N\0Ð	!ƒS\0Ñ\x14‚d\0\n\x1aÒÓ\n!Ô\"@)Õšƒd\0Ñ\x15\x0e\"GTÈ\x1e#‰\x1e$\nB\x0e\"B\x16\"\fƒ\x7f\0Ö	!„•\0×\n\x0e$\f†Œ\0\v…Œ\0\rC#ˆØ ˆÑ\x16%`\x16#\fƒÂ\0\x0e%ƒ§\0Ùyˆ`\x16#\x0e&ŠÈÚۏˆ\x0e')\x1e(\x1e)Ü\nÑ\"ˆ*dbˆ‚â\0\rƒâ\0\vƒâ\0\x0e%ƒÕ\0Ùyˆ`\x16#Ø ˆÝ\nÞ\n!\"ˆdbˆŠŒ\x0e#`}ˆßÈ\x0e$à\x0e*@!ƒù\0á‚ý\0\x0e*GS\n‰\x1a@;ƒ\n\x01\n@‚\x0e\x01á\n8@)$,‡" [ignored type handle not-attachment display text string-match throw nil mm-inline-override-p 4 "inline" mm-attachment-override-p mm-automatic-display-p mm-inlinable-p mm-inlined-p mm-automatic-external-display-p t split-string mm-handle-media-type "/" "text" gnus-unbuttonized-mime-type-p gnus-insert-mime-button gnus-article-insert-newline -1 (set-buffer gnus-summary-buffer) ((error)) mm-display-part mm-insert-inline mm-get-part gnus-treat-article bufferp 1 gnus-article-mime-handle-alist beg id move gnus-newsgroup-charset gnus-newsgroup-ignored-charsets mail-parse-ignored-charsets mail-parse-charset gnus-article-mime-handles] 7)
|   gnus-mime-display-single((#<buffer  *mm*<3>> ("application/emacs-lisp") nil (lambda nil (let ... ...)) ("inline") nil nil nil))
|   gnus-mime-display-part((#<buffer  *mm*<3>> ("application/emacs-lisp") nil (lambda nil (let ... ...)) ("inline") nil nil nil))
|   mapcar(gnus-mime-display-part ((#<buffer  *mm*<2>> ("text/plain") nil (lambda nil ...) nil nil nil nil) (#<buffer  *mm*<3>> ("application/emacs-lisp") nil (lambda nil ...) ("inline") nil nil nil) (#<buffer  *mm*<4>> ("text/plain") nil nil ("inline") nil nil nil)))
|   gnus-mime-display-mixed(((#<buffer  *mm*<2>> ("text/plain") nil (lambda nil ...) nil nil nil nil) (#<buffer  *mm*<3>> ("application/emacs-lisp") nil (lambda nil ...) ("inline") nil nil nil) (#<buffer  *mm*<4>> ("text/plain") nil nil ("inline") nil nil nil)))
|   gnus-mime-display-part((#("multipart/mixed" 0 15 (start nil from "harder@ifa.au.dk" buffer #<buffer  *mm*> boundary "=-=-=")) (#<buffer  *mm*<2>> ("text/plain") nil (lambda nil ...) nil nil nil nil) (#<buffer  *mm*<3>> ("application/emacs-lisp") nil (lambda nil ...) ("inline") nil nil nil) (#<buffer  *mm*<4>> ("text/plain") nil nil ("inline") nil nil nil)))
|   gnus-display-mime()
|   gnus-article-prepare-display()
|   gnus-article-prepare(15605 nil)
|   gnus-summary-display-article(15605 nil)
|   gnus-summary-select-article(nil nil pseudo)
|   gnus-summary-scroll-up(1)
|   call-interactively(gnus-summary-scroll-up)
`----

Do you think this is normal ? (what about the famous marker in
the *Article* buffer ?)

Regards
-- 
Hito no kokoro wa kawareru mono

Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Cristian Gutierrez]

Este viernes, Jesper Harder dijo:
> Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
>
>> 2. I have friends of mine with whoom I often exchange Lisp
>>    snippets and so I would like to have the lisp snippet rendered
>>    differently from the rest of the article
>
> This should be easy.  Just use inline attachments:
> (defun foo (x)
>   (+ 2 x))
>
> i.e.
>
> <#part type="application/emacs-lisp" disposition=inline>
> (defun foo (x)
>   (+ 2 x))
> <#part type="text/plain" disposition=inline>

Amazing! Is there any chance to highlight snippets in other languages?
(Perl/Python for example). Inlining a little perl snippet (text/x-perl)
didn't work here...

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Re: Embedded lisp in the message body: hwoto ?

[Xavier Maillard]

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On  7 oct 2004, Cristian Gutierrez wrote:

> Este viernes, Jesper Harder dijo:
> > Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
> > 
> > > 2. I have friends of mine with whoom I often exchange Lisp
> > > snippets and so I would like to have the lisp snippet
> > > rendered differently from the rest of the article
> > 
> > This should be easy.  Just use inline attachments:
> > (defun foo (x)
> > (+ 2 x))
> > 
> > i.e.
> > 
> > 

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> 
> Amazing! Is there any chance to highlight snippets in other
> languages? (Perl/Python for example). Inlining a little perl
> snippet (text/x-perl) didn't work here...

Yes and the cool and neat thing, you can add your own !

For inlined content, just check:

,----[ C-h v mm-inlined-types RET ]
| mm-inlined-types's value is 
| ("image/.*" "text/.*" "message/delivery-status"
|"message/rfc822" "message/partial" "message/external-body"
|"application/emacs-lisp" "application/x-emacs-lisp"
|"application/pgp-signature" "application/x-pkcs7-signature"
|"application/pkcs7-signature" "application/x-pkcs7-mime"
|"application/pkcs7-mime") 
| 
| 
| List of media types that are to be displayed inline.
| See also `mm-inline-media-tests', which says how to display a media
| type inline.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
| 
| Defined in `mm-decode'.
`----

Plus:

,----[ C-h v mm-inline-media-tests RET ]
| mm-inline-media-tests's value is shown below.
| 
| Alist of media types/tests saying whether types can be displayed inline.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
| 
| Defined in `mm-decode'.
| 
| Value:
| (("image/p?jpeg" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'jpeg handle)))
|  ("image/png" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'png handle)))
|  ("image/gif" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'gif handle)))
|  ("image/tiff" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'tiff handle)))
|  ("image/xbm" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xbm handle)))
|  ("image/x-xbitmap" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xbm handle)))
|  ("image/xpm" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xpm handle)))
|  ("image/x-xpixmap" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'xpm handle)))
|  ("image/bmp" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'bmp handle)))
|  ("image/x-portable-bitmap" mm-inline-image
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (mm-valid-and-fit-image-p 'pbm handle)))
|  ("text/plain" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("text/enriched" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("text/richtext" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("text/x-patch" mm-display-patch-inline
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (locate-library "diff-mode")))
|  ("application/emacs-lisp" mm-display-elisp-inline identity)
|  ("application/x-emacs-lisp" mm-display-elisp-inline identity)
|  ("text/dns" mm-display-dns-inline identity)
|  ("text/html" mm-inline-text-html
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (or mm-inline-text-html-renderer mm-text-html-renderer)))
|  ("text/x-vcard" mm-inline-text-vcard
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (or
|      (featurep 'vcard)
|      (locate-library "vcard"))))
|  ("message/delivery-status" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("message/rfc822" mm-inline-message identity)
|  ("message/partial" mm-inline-partial identity)
|  ("message/external-body" mm-inline-external-body identity)
|  ("text/.*" mm-inline-text identity)
|  ("audio/wav" mm-inline-audio
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (and
|      (or
|       (featurep 'nas-sound)
|       (featurep 'native-sound))
|      (device-sound-enabled-p))))
|  ("audio/au" mm-inline-audio
|   (lambda
|     (handle)
|     (and
|      (or
|       (featurep 'nas-sound)
|       (featurep 'native-sound))
|      (device-sound-enabled-p))))
|  ("application/pgp-signature" ignore identity)
|  ("application/x-pkcs7-signature" ignore identity)
|  ("application/pkcs7-signature" ignore identity)
|  ("application/x-pkcs7-mime" ignore identity)
|  ("application/pkcs7-mime" ignore identity)
|  ("multipart/alternative" ignore identity)
|  ("multipart/mixed" ignore identity)
|  ("multipart/related" ignore identity)
|  ("audio/.*" ignore ignore)
|  ("image/.*" ignore ignore)
|  (".*" mm-inline-text mm-readable-p))
| 
| [back]
`----

You can add a perl highlithing engine quite easily.

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