From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58839 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [Q]: Agent expiration and fetching Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:22:57 +0200 Organization: GNU Rox ! Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097652277 24068 80.91.229.6 (13 Oct 2004 07:24:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7376@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Oct 13 09:24:30 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CHdUs-0006qK-00 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:24:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CHdUg-0007rX-00; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:24:18 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CHdUb-0007rS-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:24:13 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CHdUa-0001vA-5L for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:24:12 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (quimby.gnus.org [80.91.224.244]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BE83A0064 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:24:11 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CHdUY-00030X-00 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:24:10 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: news.gnu-rox.org!news Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 80 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rms.gnu-rox.org Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1097652250 11564 62.212.121.152 (13 Oct 2004 07:24:10 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Mail-Copies-To: never X-Attribution: zeDek X-Face: "qG{UC8GPzro#PZ!Jgisuj0]=k10 f#d596CJMPGOGwB'j\^JR2g0']N%L:ylC`?.l8u#JuS#CygUA}avHHVJJ!#ub7CxX#u]g}?z,hQ;c q%v]"[$!BfS X-Accept-Language: fr-fr, en-en, en-fr User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:M/Xs4yaNsMfkfo4Rspm4oHn/rb0= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58839 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58839 On 13 oct 2004, Kevin Greiner wrote: > Xavier Maillard writes: > > > Hello, > > > > I want to ask something which tends to make me crazy. > > > > I set the gnus-agent-expiration to enabled. It expires > > correctly but I sometimes, when 'J s'ing got old messages > > just downloaded again. > > > > How can I prevent this from happening ? > > Set gnus-agent-consider-all-articles to nil. Hmm: ,----[ C-h v gnus-agent-consider-all-articles RET ] | gnus-agent-consider-all-articles's value is nil | | [back] `---- > > Subsidiary question: how can I cache all articles > > automatically ? > > The cache and the agent are redundant in that both create > independent local copies of your articles. Are you sure that > you want to do this? Well, the goal is not to have redundant stuff but, as I experiment things, I would like to be sure I do not loose anything. So the main idea, for instance, is to enter *ALL* unread/unseen articles into the cache even if I already have fetched them in the agent. I tried this: ,----[ C-h v gnus-cache-enter-articles RET ] | gnus-cache-enter-articles's value is | (ticked dormant unread unseen) | | | Classes of articles to enter into the cache. | | You can customize this variable. | | Defined in `gnus-cache'. | | [back] `---- But that doesn't work. Oh, and yes, I remove articles when read or expired from the cache off course :/ What is wrong with this ? > > And last, what is best to use: ticked/dormant articles or > > cached ? (given the fact I have almost all agentized). > > Personally, I either set a group to never expire from the agent > (in which case I never cache those articles) or I expire after > a short time but use the cache for long term storage. Which I > do depends upon the percentage of articles that I expect to > keep in a certain group. Thank you for your feedback. There so many features I never ever have visited before, I am almost thinking I am n00b :/ Regards. -- GNUSFR.ORG http://gnusfr.org/ EMACSFR.ORG http://emacsfr.org/ Xavier Maillard Tel: +33 6 68 04 64 37