From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53725 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus: UTF-8 and compatibility with other MUAs Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:24:20 +0200 Organization: GNU Rox ! Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1060982467 23294 80.91.224.253 (15 Aug 2003 21:21:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2270@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Aug 15 23:21:05 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19nm0P-0006uu-00 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:21:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19nlyq-0002A4-00; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:19:28 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19nlyc-00029e-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:19:14 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 99500 invoked by alias); 15 Aug 2003 21:19:13 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 99494 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2003 21:19:13 -0000 Original-Received: from rms.gnu-rox.org (HELO smtp.gnu-rox.org) (213.41.134.247) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2003 21:19:13 -0000 Original-Received: from fxgs.gnu-rox.org.gnu-rox.org (fxgs.gnu-rox.org [10.0.0.10]) by smtp.gnu-rox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57763E15C for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:18:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Adress: zedek@gnu-rox.org X-URL: http://www.gnusfr.org X-Home-Page: http://www.gnu-rox.org X-Gpg-Key-ID: 4CE51D71 X-Gpg-Fingerprint: 298B 37DE E2EF C030 5D64 6CFF C3DA E70E 4CE5 1D71 X-Gpg-Affinity: Will accept encrypted message for GNUpg X-Disclaimer: Fourty Two X-Accept-Language: en, fr X-Face: 63TbQAY?C>dKDtNNr7 (Jesper Harder's message of "Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:01:27 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53725 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53725 <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jesper Harder writes: > Xavier Maillard writes: >=20=20 > > I know Emacs is able to use utf-8 encoding so Gnus is. > >=20=20 > > My question is more a question of compliance with other MUAs. > > Would you recommend your users to use utf-8 as a default encoding > > system ? >=20=20 > No, because there's no reason to use UTF-8 if a more widely supported > charset is sufficient. Ok for that. So what would be the default charset to recommend to people ?=20 Why the hell was utf-8 invented so ? =20=20 > To use UTF-8 by default would also be against RFC 2046: >=20=20 > ,----[ RFC 2046, Section 4.1.2. ] > | > | In general, composition software should always use the "lowest > | common denominator" character set possible. For example, if a > | body contains only US-ASCII characters, it SHOULD be marked as > | being in the US- ASCII character set, not ISO-8859-1, which, > | like all the ISO-8859 family of character sets, is a superset of > | US-ASCII. More generally, if a widely-used character set is a > | subset of another character set, and a body contains only > | characters in the widely-used subset, it should be labelled as > | being in that subset. This will increase the chances that the > | recipient will be able to view the resulting entity correctly. > `----=20=20 > But if the message contains characters (or combination of characters) > where a _single_ iso-8859-x charset can't be used, then by all means > use UTF-8. This is far better than sending a multipart message > (which Gnus does if UTF-8 isn't available). Thanx for the hint. zeDek --=20 "Just did it." --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/PSVUw9rnDkzlHXERApT2AJ9fVJnWzdxhD2gNs4vl2l4ec3hszACeJyqK Tzvzlw+V4LQnb0bd6AJEuMM= =Z90N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--