From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53548 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [HS?]: On gnus developement Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:07:49 +0200 Organization: GNU Rox ! 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Ad copyright assignments: remember SCO. Oh okay that's just the FSF copyright, right ?=20 =20=20 > > Last but (surely) not least, is there any URL you can recommend to > > learn what need to be done (TODO list), >=20=20 > There's the file "todo" in the top-level Gnus directory. But it's > not terribly up to date -- one of the items is >=20=20 > * Go through the todo list and remove items already done. Erf ;) I have alrready red the TODO list but I really didn't see what have been done ;)=20 =20=20 > (which would be a useful thing to do, btw.)=20=20 sure ;) =20=20 > You can also grep the sources for the string "Fixme" (or "FIXME") for > some problems that would be nice to have fixed. That's an idea. I will try to list all those entries form the source and try to update the TODO list. =20=20 > Some other random suggestions: >=20=20 > o Fix bugs. Fix bugs. Fix bugs. Read (and the > other Gnus groups) and try fix bugs that people report. As I am not good enough to help people on this "channel", I really can't see how hard would it be to help people fighting bugs. But who knows ? Maybe it is my destiny ;) =20=20 > o Improve the documentation. Document currently undocumented options > and commands. Write tool-tips for menu items that don't have them. > Improve docstrings, make them conform to > where it makes sense. Better for you (and for me) not to have to touch to the documentation side ;) My english is still goofy (not native language) and I am not fan of documentation writing. In fact this is one of my main problem at work : documentation. =20=20 > o Implement a nifty feature you'd like to have. Steal cool ideas Yep but AFAIC, Gnus is so powerfull, I don't see/need other things for instance. In fact there is already so much done, I am not sure I can find out a new killer-feature to implement ;) > from other software -- JWZ has some interesting ideas in: >=20=20 > http://www.mozilla.org/blue-sky/misc/199805/intertwingle.html Will have a look at it. =20=20 > Zo=EB sounds interesting, too (haven't tried it, though): >=20=20 > http://guest.evectors.it/zoe/ >=20=20 > o Verify standards compliance. Read through some of the standards to > which Gnus purports to conform, and verify that we satisfy all > SHOULDs and MUSTs, implement missing parts. Maybe write tests for > some evil corner cases which could be useful for regression testing. >=20=20 > Two examples: 1) we need a real RC2822 address parser, 2) mailcap > parsing (RFC1524) is slightly wrong. >=20=20 Interesting but I need to read more on those items :) Maybe one day ... > o Profile time and memory use, and try reduce it. Yep. There is little to do. =20=20 > o If you have the right paranoid mindset and understanding of > security issues: Audit the code related to encryption to make sure > it's done in the safest possible way. =20=20 > > and how to become a Gnus developer (even if just occasional) ? >=20=20 > Send patches/code. If you contribute enough stuff, people will > probably eventually think it's more convenient if you have commit > access. Nice :) Will try to do my best ;) The main idea behind this thread is I really want to contribute to all project which I take advantage daily. It has been right for many of them such as videolan, xfce4, etc... In fact it is one of my main mental problem :) I like to try to help out guys on project I daily use even if my contributions are/could be considerated as not important/useless/small. It is my way to show/retribute people for doing so good piece of software. zeDek --=20 "My suggestion for an Official Usenet Motto: "If you have nothing to say,then come on in, this is the place for you, tell us all about it!"=20 Hevard Fosseng --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/IMk3w9rnDkzlHXERAs38AJ9XwmhT9fr4o6IdA+C3DtuEd814JwCgiqDg ++9tuT8mzX6asxIKn/kB58o= =nwSw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--