From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35017 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jason R. Mastaler" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids Date: 27 Feb 2001 10:55:27 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <20010223133030.B14991@mastaler.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170830 781 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:27:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA3BD049D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:56:13 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAB22045; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:55:58 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:55:12 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12804 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:54:58 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from acl.lanl.gov (acl.lanl.gov [128.165.147.1]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E747AD049D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:55:29 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from cyan.acl.lanl.gov (root@cyan.acl.lanl.gov [128.165.147.151]) by acl.lanl.gov (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA9195349; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:55:28 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: (from jasonrm@localhost) by cyan.acl.lanl.gov (8.9.3/8.8.8) id KAA30975; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:55:27 -0700 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "27 Feb 2001 18:47:45 +0100" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 23 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35017 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35017 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > > Right. So it still seems that the first part of the Message-ID > > (before @) should be enough to guarantee uniqueness if done > > correctly. Perhaps if it was a combination of random time, and an > > aggregate of username and numeric userid, then it would not matter > > if `user-mail-address' was used for the second part of the ID. > > Right? >=20 > The standard says that the rhs should uniquely identify the host, and > the lhs should uniquely identify the messages from that host. I > suggest to stick with the standard. This means to NOT use a rhs like > "hotmail.com".=20 So in other words, my above assertion is correct, and you now resist solely because of this "standard"? I question whether this is really a standard because of how many other MUAs use the user's defined e-mail address for the rhs of the message-id. Mozilla and Mutt immediately come to mind. I'm sure there are others as well. The qmail MTA also allows users to freely masquerade the hostname of their message-ids to whatever they want.