From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35057 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jason R. Mastaler" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids Date: 27 Feb 2001 16:58:02 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <20010223133030.B14991@mastaler.com> <87u25fep46.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170862 969 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:27:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3104D049D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:58:35 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAB25359; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:58:23 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:57:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16566 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:57:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from acl.lanl.gov (acl.lanl.gov [128.165.147.1]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530B8D049D for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:58:04 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from cyan.acl.lanl.gov (root@cyan.acl.lanl.gov [128.165.147.151]) by acl.lanl.gov (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA9354521; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:58:02 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: (from jasonrm@localhost) by cyan.acl.lanl.gov (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA06787; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:58:02 -0700 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: Florian Weimer's message of "27 Feb 2001 23:29:45 +0100" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 17 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35057 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35057 Florian Weimer writes: > > Nothing guarantees that another client won't generate the same lhs > > using a different algorithm. > > If there are, say, 64 bit of entropy in the message ID, this is not > going to happen, regardless of the scheme being used. Thanks for expressing mathematically what I've been trying to get across all day. > The '%s.mid.gnus.org' solution seems to be a good idea. For cancel > locks, we need an entropy collector anyway, so we can use its output > to generate a unique identifier for the RHS as well. I'm all for a better RHS than (system-name), but why stick "gnus.org" in there. This looks too much like a fqdn.