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From: "Steven E. Harris" <seh@panix.com>
Subject: Re: loading gnus creates *Group* buffer
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:40:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <q67isjh2hh2.fsf@L75001820.us.ray.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <microsoft-free.87ptdpre3t.fsf@eicq.dnsalias.org> (Steve Youngs's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:21:42 +1000")

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Steve Youngs <sryoungs@bigpond.net.au> writes:

> For reasons that I'm not sure of, when you start XEmacs like that
> you won't get the package directories under $HOME/.xemacs in your
> load-path.
>
> Try again, loading XEmacs normally.

Same result.

> That's Cygwin for ya.

Maybe 'file' is available in some package that I don't have
installed.

>  $ xemacs -debug-paths -kill > ~/xemacs-full-paths.out 2>&1
>
> Whatever paths that XEmacs knows about on a normal start up will be in
> ~/xemacs-full-paths.out.
>
>  $ xemacs -q -debug-paths -kill > ~/xemacs-q-paths.out 2>&1
>
> Will tell you the paths that XEmacs knows about when started with
> '-q'. 

See attached below. They're both the same, and neither makes mention
of anything under ~/.xemacs.

> Why don't you just install Gnus to the default location?

For years, I was running an XEmacs in a location that I didn't have
write permission to, so I got in the habit of keeping my local
packages (including Gnus CVS builds) under my home directory. I chose
~/usr/local/ as the root to feed to the Gnus 'configure' script and it
came up with ~/usr/local/lib/xemacs/site-packages as the root for
Gnus.

> Or configure Gnus to install under ~/.xemacs/site-packages ?

Well, now I'd consider doing that, but I jumped in on this thread
because I didn't know about these special directories under ~/.xemacs
that would enable the autoload behavior. You explained how they're
supposed to work, and I've been trying to convince myself (and you in
the process) that these directories are not inspected with my current
Cygwin XEmacs 21.4.13. It's a good idea. I just wished it worked here.


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      4 [unknown (0xBC8)] xemacs-21.4.13 7024 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5
  40463 [unknown (0xBC8)] xemacs-21.4.13 7024 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5
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      3 [unknown (0x12D8)] xemacs-21.4.13 8888 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5
  12874 [unknown (0x12D8)] xemacs-21.4.13 8888 fhandler_console::fixup_after_exec: error opening input console handle after exec, errno 13, Win32 error 5
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-- 
Steven E. Harris

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-12 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-07  3:07 Katsumi Yamaoka
2004-01-07  3:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-01-07  3:14   ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2004-01-07 16:10 ` Steven E. Harris
2004-01-07 19:52   ` Steve Youngs
2004-01-07 21:17     ` Steven E. Harris
2004-01-07 23:24       ` Steve Youngs
2004-01-08  1:56       ` Istvan Marko
2004-01-08 23:11         ` Steven E. Harris
2004-01-08 23:57         ` Steve Youngs
2004-01-09  0:26           ` Steven E. Harris
2004-01-09  2:39             ` Steve Youngs
2004-01-11 21:41             ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-01-11 22:59               ` Steve Youngs
2004-01-11 23:17               ` Steven E. Harris
2004-01-12  0:00                 ` Steve Youngs
2004-01-12  1:33                   ` Steven E. Harris
2004-01-12  4:21                     ` Steve Youngs
2004-01-12 17:40                       ` Steven E. Harris [this message]
2004-01-12 22:25                         ` Steve Youngs

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