From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/38593 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Amos Gouaux Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: self contained nnfolder Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:10:08 -0500 Sender: amos@utdallas.edu Message-ID: References: <87r8tqim9w.fsf@uwo.ca> <87zo8efblz.fsf@uwo.ca> <87ofotfv4x.fsf@uwo.ca> <871ylomi71.fsf@uwo.ca> <87heukl2nu.fsf@uwo.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174432 23352 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:27:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 18920 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2001 14:12:07 -0000 Original-Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (129.110.10.1) by gnus.org with SMTP; 4 Sep 2001 14:12:07 -0000 Original-Received: from spartacus.utdallas.edu (spartacus.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.11]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E681A00FD for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:12:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:41:07 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Academic Rigor) Original-Lines: 38 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38593 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38593 >>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:41:07 +0200, >>>>> Kai Großjohann (kg) writes: kg> Amos Gouaux writes: >> I've read the info docs and combed through my ~/.newsrc.eld, but I'm >> still at a loss as to why it still attempts to connect to "news" via >> nntp. No NNTP* or NEWS env. Got (setq gnus-nntp-server nil) to be >> sure. No /etc/nntpserver. Does it automatically look for a host >> name "news"? kg> Start Gnus, hit `^'. What do you see in the server list? Any nntp kg> server there? Oh, I'm afraid I was being stupid yet again. The disadvantage of using emacs/xemacs for as long as I have is that my init stuff is a horrible mess. The problem is that I was throwing everything into the gnus-startup-hook I've been adding to over the years. However, these settings (gnus-select-method and gnus-secondary-select-methods) need to be set up before then. Duh. Once I pulled these out into regular init stuff evaled before gnus is started, the phantom nntp:news entry disappeared. I'm not sure why it appeared at all, but now it's gone. These two settings are indeed confusing. What I'm trying to do is move critical stuff like my nnimap inbox into gnus-secondary-select-methods and the rest into foreign groups. I set gnus-activate-foreign-newsgroups to 2. Then when I want to read mail on a foreign server, I go into the server buffer and open that server, then M-g the topic containing the groups from that server. At one point I was thinking of putting my nnimap inbox in gnus-select-method, but it sounds like some folks had difficulty with that. Besides, with posting-styles and such, I kinda prefer that the server name be present with all my groups. I've also got a couple of IMAP servers in the mix. -- Amos