From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64411 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Chen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: charset ANSI_x3.4-1968, et al Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:57:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87tzwiwcmo.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1174262312 2208 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2007 23:58:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:58:32 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M12935@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Mar 19 00:58:29 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HT5Gc-00040L-1U for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:58:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HT5GC-0008FO-IX; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:58:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HT5G9-0008Ev-G2 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:57:57 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HT5G3-0008AO-KJ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:57:57 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1HT5G1-0004tM-00 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:57:49 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HT5Fu-0004An-EZ for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:57:42 +0100 Original-Received: from roar.cs.berkeley.edu ([128.32.35.215]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:57:42 +0100 Original-Received: from quarl by roar.cs.berkeley.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:57:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: roar.cs.berkeley.edu X-Quack-Archive: 1 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.94 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HsJTCmp+GoreFHKZtSeBInSA9kA= X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64411 Archived-At: >>>>> On 2007-03-18 12:54 PDT, Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> RFC 1345 is not standards-track, but the IANA registry Simon> is used by the standards-track MIME. Good point about standards-track-ness. But, regardless of whether it's officially "okay", I would recommend /accepting/ (not sending) the ANSI_x3.4-1968 string: "Be liberal in what you accept, conservative in what you send." There are already implementations "in the wild" sending it (perhaps incorrectly, but still, it's out there) -- Fedora, Debian, and presumably their derivatives. >> [1] This is now happening on multiple systems (which are >> all Debian). cron appears to be using the default locale >> name. On Linux, you can get the string ANSI_x3.4-1968 if >> you run "LC_CTYPE=C locale charmap". Simon> I think this should be reported as a bug. Yup, on the "conservative in what you send" side of it, I also sent them patch after I emailed ding@. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=415302 -- Karl 2007-03-18 16:48