From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/25497 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Didier Verna Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: test charset / encoding Date: 28 Sep 1999 09:54:20 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035162871 14257 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:14:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14227 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAB07729; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:56:27 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00749 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:56:23 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from infres.enst.fr (infres.enst.fr [137.194.160.3]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14210 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 03:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from metheny.enst.fr (metheny.enst.fr [137.194.204.4]) by infres.enst.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667EB45421 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:54:22 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: (from verna@localhost) by metheny.enst.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01565; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:54:22 +0200 (MET DST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: dv X-Url: http://www.infres.enst.fr/~verna X-Web: http://www.infres.enst.fr/~verna X-Home-Page: http://www.infres.enst.fr/~verna In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "27 Sep 1999 20:45:57 +0200" X-Face: |j}\)O|k##MrRz#VK$Jy=0r=3Qc,,a/Tr6*JQbE73dy17]2YcmW$9Z&H21e}#~#pgc>dn(is5Bv1l!{1re+Q9suKIOUmOqZs2>QMxHlR;;}kaGYA@HR3D C6 X-Face: 6o|eiKqaHN.ANh8HXDzntcWUOCg\]RsOd.ctvm~*y}Y^R&*a+Co,\s#=HWsw3x$b_n2kJ#g (7u?J^@^xP)f,jUF|0Z'J:|G/bMA5O12*b,7`-Q`=pKsCRIpso07.Y>YB2H{7`?u&yh;C_ZtLHfj (mm-find-mime-charset-region (point-min) (point-max)) > => (iso-8859-1) > > If not, something is wrong somewhere in the bowels of that function, > or somewhere in its vicinity. => nil Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I've got it. It's the 'enable-multibyte-character under XEmacs problem again. Now look, this really makes me furious :-( I think I will finally patch XEmacs to ditch this (*&^@#%^ variable. The problem: this variable is here (in XEmacs) only for compatibility with GNU Emacs (ie., just to be bound), but it is *MEANINGLESS*. However, some code do take it into account which leads to bogus behavior (w3 for instance, from the picons code turns it to nil somewhere). What we have here is another example of fuckage due to this variable[1]. The first problem I encountered was japaneese not displayed at all. Lars: if I patch gnus to remove any use of this variable under XEmacs, will you accept it ? Bill: s/gnus/w3/ Footnotes: [1] Steve, I hope you're convinced now. -- / / _ _ Didier Verna http://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / ENST, INFRES C201.1 mailto:verna@inf.enst.fr /_/ / /_/ / /__ / 46 rue Barrault Tel. +33 (1) 45 81 73 46 75013 Paris, France Fax. +33 (1) 45 81 31 19