Re: Gnus 5.10?

[Frank Schmitt <usereplyto@Frank-Schmitt.net>]

kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> What do people think about releasing 5.10?  It's been a while since
> 5.8...  (And before Lars gets back to his life again :-)

There should definitely be a 5.10 NOW. Have a look at the FAQ I just
wrote and see at how many places there's a "If you use Oort do X, if you
use 5.8.8, you lose" and I didn't even mention everywhere the easier or
better solution for Oort.

An other point: For me it becomes more difficult from day to day to help
Newbies because you always have to look "is this new in Oort" and if it
is invent the wheel a second time.

If there is stuff which people want to include but which isn't written
yet, put it in 5.10.1 or release a 5.10 now and a 6.0 in summer when the
now existing features are tested and the new ones are written, but hell
please, please sugar please release now and not in six month as I'm sure
that this six month will become 12 in the end.

Finally I don't really see why not to release no, it's just a say 3 week
feature freeze where people look in the dark places if stuff still
works, everything is documented and a posting to gnu.emacs.gnus if
everything is done.

So, make me a pleasure for sitting two weeks over the new FAQ and give
me the possibility to delete

|This version is very stable and should be the choice for all
|beginners. However 5.8.8 is quite old, so many people today use the BETA
|version from CVS called Oort Gnus, which contains a huge amount of new
|features.

and replace it with

|\\(5.10\\|6.0\\) is released! Get the best Gnus of all times, including
|tons of new exciting and wonderful features which make all other MUAs
|and NUAs look like childrens toys.

And if I didn't convince you yet: Delete your Oort and work with 5.10
for the next two weeks and think about if it's really nice to let the
normal user miss the features you are then probably missing:

-Anti Spam functionality
-Reworked Agent
-New possibilities for Gnus summary line especially thread trees
-New possibilities for rendering HTML mails
-Easy inclusion of X-Faces
-/N and /O in summary buffer
-Integration of groups.google.com
-New article washing functions especially Outlook deuglify
-A working interface to pgp
-Better handling of ISO-8859-x

to name the ones I couldn't live anymore without.

-- 
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One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.