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Subject: Re: Patch for filesystems that do not support chmod.
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Paul Stodghill <stodghil@cs.cornell.edu> writes:

> I wrote,
>
>> This is not a platform bug. IMO, Gnus should not request a file mode
>> that the underlying filesystem cannot support.
>
> ... or, Gnus should gracefully handle the case of when the
> set-file-modes call fails.

Yes, please.  Recently the company mandated virus checker on my
machine has been deleting email as Gnus rights it disk.  When Gnus
tries to chmod the non-existent file, it can't.  I've had to delete
the mails from .emacs-mail-crash-box to read my mail, which is a huge
pain.[1]

Thanks,
Jon

Footnotes: 
[1]  But not enough pain to track down either the virus scan or the
     Gnus issue yet.  I'm not even sure if I have diagnosed the
     problem correctly.