From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23454 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: some mail annoyances [deleting mail] Date: 22 Jun 1999 21:15:06 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161184 2096 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:46:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09980 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAB07930; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:15:36 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:16:27 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14243 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:16:15 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (sheridan.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.227]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09677 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from my.dina.kvl.dk (my.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.137]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id VAA19733; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:15:38 +0200 Original-Received: by my.dina.kvl.dk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA22709; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:15:06 +0200 Original-To: Per Bothner X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: Per Bothner's message of "22 Jun 1999 11:33:29 -0700" Original-Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070084 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.84) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23454 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23454 Per Bothner writes: > 'E' does not move to the next message. It does when I type it. > The most common command when reading mail is "delete this message > and go to the next one". Not when using Gnus. In Gnus, as in any decent newsreader, the most common command is "show next page of this message, or if at the last page, show first page of the next message and mark it read, or if we are at the last message, show the first message of the next group and mark it read, or if we are at the last group, exit to the group list". It happens to be bound to the biggest key on the keyboard. Expiring messages are handled by the news server, or by Gnus setting one of the "expire" group parameters. It is correct that the traditional mail reader usage is different, but if you are using Gnus as you use traditional mail readers, you aren't using it as it was designed to be used. Either you adopt the "mail is news" way of thinking, or you will have to fight Gnus all the way.